List your top 5 welterweights right now.

[Papaleo]

Mayweather
Bradley
Pacquiao
Marquez
Porter

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There's no way I'm ranking Bradley in front of Pacquiao because he's not better than Manny and the first fight abundantly proved that to me. I guess I could see having JMM at 2 because he beat Pacquiao, but other than the KO shot, he was getting beat by Manny and he got beat clearly by Bradley.

I guess mine is including H2H as well as resume and current form. Are you picking Manny over Bradley in April? Would you pick Pacquiao over JMM in the 5th fight? That's how I arrived at my rankings with Manny at #2.

Fair enough and good points, but I don't think there's need for H2H hypothetical scenarios since they fought each other and we can look at the results. While you can say that Pacquiao was beating up Marquez, the fight only lasted 6 rounds and Manny was KO'd; those are the facts. Also, their fight prior to that I and many people believed that Marquez thoroughly outboxed Pacquiao and was robbed. In essence, I guess Marquez' welterweight ranking is solely based on knocking Manny out and outboxing him but getting robbed, however his KO6 is the best current win of any welterweight. Timothy Bradley has a welterweight resume consisting of Abregu, Pacquiao (contested decision), Ruslan, and Marquez; looks like a pretty good list of fighters to me. I guess we'll have a better picture as to who is number 2 after Bradley-Pacquiao (facing Marquez winner in fall) this year.

[El Angel]

Fair enough and good points, but I don't think there's need for H2H hypothetical scenarios since they fought each other and we can look at the results. While you can say that Pacquiao was beating up Marquez, the fight only lasted 6 rounds and Manny was KO'd; those are the facts. Also, their fight prior to that I and many people believed that Marquez thoroughly outboxed Pacquiao and was robbed. In essence, I guess Marquez' welterweight ranking is solely based on knocking Manny out and outboxing him but getting robbed, however his KO6 is the best current win of any welterweight. Timothy Bradley has a welterweight resume consisting of Abregu, Pacquiao (contested decision), Ruslan, and Marquez; looks like a pretty good list of fighters to me. I guess we'll have a better picture as to who is number 2 after Bradley-Pacquiao (facing Marquez winner in fall) this year.

You make good points as well. Marquez did arguably beat MP in the 3rd fight and KO'd him in the 4th, so to rate him below based on me having Bradley below Pacquaio for similar reasons is hypocritical on my part.

I agree with wholeheartedly with the last statement. Hopefully this year the TR WW picture gets cleaned up.

(It's sad that there is a TR WW and GBP WW picture.)

[M Bison]

YOu going to get on Keith who just listed his top 5 and Floyds not even on it?

Floyd is a catchweight number 1 king not a Welterweight number 1 fighter, until he fights Pacquiao and stops injecting Xylocaine he can't be took seriously.

[Grimgash]

Floyd
Tim
Manny
Porter
Thurman

[Grimgash]

Floyd is a catchweight number 1 king not a Welterweight number 1 fighter, until he fights Pacquiao and stops injecting Xylocaine he can't be took seriously.

Mannys best win at 147 was at a catchweight....

[jasjas]

Trolling? i am posting facts Bradley is the WBO champion right? He is undefeated right? ok well he won,and even then he was an unranked fighter at ww....i am not arguing who won either way Bradley was not ranked at ww

So if tarver beat Hopkins when bhop moved up , that win means less because Hopkins wasn't ranked at LHW?!? Smfh

[Grimgash]

You make good points as well. Marquez did arguably beat MP in the 3rd fight and KO'd him in the 4th, so to rate him below based on me having Bradley below Pacquaio for similar reasons is hypocritical on my part.

I agree with wholeheartedly with the last statement. Hopefully this year the TR WW picture gets cleaned up.

(It's sad that there is a TR WW and GBP WW picture.)

I dunno, I don't rank JMM in the top 5 due to his poor WW record. Sure he KO'd pac but it is what it is, I don't feel he'd win a rematch and the third fight was close to an absurd robbery. Bradley's earned #2 and Pac's disputed loss and KO loss put him at third for me.

[Boxing lives]

maidana on everyone's top 5? really?

mayweather
bradley
pacquiao
thurman
jmm
(danny will be when he moves up, same with lucas. i'd take out JMM)

[torosboxing75]

Mayweather
Pacquiao
Bradley
Maidana
Porter/Thurman

Here's my list ^^^^^^^^^