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Lucas vs Keith - Is GBP trying to cash in on Matthysse?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
    Before losing to Garcia, Matthysse fans were saying he KO's Mayweather, Pacquiao, Bradley. Now after 1 loss, fighting a fighter like Keith Thurman, untested at the elite level, is apparently career suicide.

    Losses don't matter? Yeah, okay.
    Lol so trueso so true

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    • #22
      Of course. Lucas is an older Argentinian who isn't ever going to have the potential as a money maker worth protecting him and building him up. Golden Boy and Haymon will try to make as much money off him as they can.

      Besides, I think he'll beat Thurman. It's a great fight.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
        Before losing to Garcia, Matthysse fans were saying he KO's Mayweather, Pacquiao, Bradley. Now after 1 loss, fighting a fighter like Keith Thurman, untested at the elite level, is apparently career suicide.

        Losses don't matter? Yeah, okay.
        you're picking out the weakest arguement available and using that as the basis of your rebuttal, also known as a strawman arguement. strawman arguements are arguements from fallacy, i.e. you have no real arguement to the discussion at hand (is Golden Boy trying to cash Matthysse in by putting him in a fight against a bigger guy who they're clearly trying to build), so you pick a weak arguement from another completely different discussion (Who could Matthysse beat at 147) which doesn't pertain to the core of this discussion: Fighting a guy who's bigger than he is, who has fought two divisions above 140.

        here's the facts

        keith thurman has fought at 147 and 154, two weights that matthysse has never fought at. he's also a natural 140 lb fighter and would be considered small at 147, similar to guys like bradley, mayweather, and pacquiao who you mentioned. those 3 guys are very similar in size to Lucas, but were also allowed to be groomed into 147lbs, Lucas has never once fought there

        Also, if I were Keith Thurman I'd be pissed because if he loses then he loses his mandatory for the belt Maidana has/Mayweather will have after May 3rd

        This fight sounds ****ed up on all sides for the fighters, it will be a great fight but I'm worried that they're trying to phase Lucas out (Maybe GBP feels he's difficult to promote, which is odd because he's essentially a 140lb GGG without his "0", but is a very exciting fighter like GGG)

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        • #24
          Time for Thurman to finish what Garcia started.

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          • #25
            matthysse takes on keith thurman
            danny runs to PR to beat up maurecio herrera
            his fans still find time to hate on lucas

            lmao

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            • #26
              If GBP wants to make an exciting fight why not match overhyped Figueroa against Lucas that would be a good fight too. Since figieroa is haveing trouble making the 35 lb limit

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              • #27
                Originally posted by boxing maniac View Post
                If GBP wants to make an exciting fight why not match overhyped Figueroa against Lucas that would be a good fight too. Since figieroa is haveing trouble making the 35 lb limit
                Because Figueroa has earning potential Lucas doesn't, and they would never **** that kid's career up by letting Matthysse slaughter him.

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                • #28
                  People are hyping up thurman way to much . I think danny garcia an mattysse both beat thurman ,

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                  • #29
                    IMO figueroa is all hype ! I wish he would step up and fight some top 10 fighters. Matthysee neess to stayat 40 he has no business at 47

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                    • #30
                      I don't know now, Lucas is 5'9 and Thurman is 5'7-1/2 so its not like he is massively bigger even if Lucas is taller. If Lucas did go upto 147 it maybe a good thing, Maidana made noise at 147 and he is around 5'9 and didn't look huge at 140.

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