Comments Thread For: Groves' Trainer: Carl Froch Will Implode Like Mike Tyson

[LacedUp]

Oh, for sure. Still, the general consensus seems to be that Froch was on his way to a stoppage. Groves was tiring and rocked bad - there was over a minute left in the round, too.

Sure, I mean, I don't think Groves looked like he was on his way out but Froch looked better and could possibly have stopped him. But he didn't legitimately stop him so there's no grounds to accept it as a defeat for Groves.

In a fighting sense, Vitali beat Lewis. Your double standards to justify your bias never fails to impress.

The situation is clearly not the same.

How can you say that you know Froch was gifted the stoppage, while also admitting that he might have won without it? That doesn't make any sense at all.
Maybe Howard Foster denied Froch a decisive KO victory, and gifted Groves a rematch he wouldn't have got otherwise?
I said the stoppage was bad because it was premature, not because I thought Groves would have won without it.
I think Froch would have stopped Groves if Foster hadn't jumped in. You think Groves would have recovered and won.
We'll never know for sure which of us is right. That's why it was a bad stoppage.

As far as I can read, we essentially agree on the happenings. Both people were robbed - but obviously Groves was robbed more as he came out with a loss he didn't fully deserve (at the time of the stoppage). If Froch had beaten him in the next 15 seconds or whatever - then he would have a deserved W on his record over Groves.

it still bewilders me when halfwits make a statement like " Carl only won because he was gifted a stoppage".
groves should thank that ref because now he gets to play and get paid for another day.

"halfwits" - he did only win because he was gifted a stoppage. From start to finish in that fight Groves put a beating on Froch.

What you fail to understand is that I wasn't claiming Froch wouldn't have won if it had gone on, but I'm not into speculation in that sense. Froch clearly was gifted a stoppage and that resulted in a win for him that, at the time, shouldn't have occurred.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

"halfwits" - he did only win because he was gifted a stoppage. From start to finish in that fight Groves put a beating on Froch.

Froch won because he got to Groves and because Groves got careless, tired and ragged. Froch deserves far more credit than you're giving him.

[LacedUp]

Froch won because he got to Groves and because Groves got careless, tired and ragged. Froch deserves far more credit than you're giving him.

Froch won because the ref stopped the fight too early.

I give him all the respect in the world for coming back and giving it to Groves in rounds 9, but in no way was that a legitimate stoppage, therefore he shouldn't get respect for a stoppage win.

Especially considering it was against a fighter "with no chin, whose breath stinks and who needs one punch to the side of the face before he goes over".

[yoz]

Froch won because he got to Groves and because Groves got careless, tired and ragged. Froch deserves far more credit than you're giving him.

Groves wasn't hurt, remember?

He was playing possum, then proceeded to protest by flinging himself into the ropes.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Groves wasn't hurt, remember?

He was playing possum, then proceeded to protest by flinging himself into the ropes.

Froch only landed "arm punches" and "half-shots"