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Could Lomachencko topple SRR as the no 1 ATG?

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    some posters just can't be taken seriously

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    • Originally posted by brickcityboxing View Post
      Yea I mean I think at some point you kind of have to look at it almost as two separate sports ... The game has evolved/changed to hold any modern era fighter to the standards of an SRR would be unfair.
      Yeah, it's like comparing modern baseball players to Babe Ruth. The game was different then. There weren't even black ball players in MLB in those days. The only guys that even approached Ruth's statistics were using steroids. Even Aaron took tons of extra at-bats to break the Babe's home-run record.

      We may never see another professional boxer approach 100 fights, let alone 200. And we'll certainly never see another star fight anything close to 100 bouts. Too much money, and too much awareness of the risks.

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      • I am actually baffled by this site. I really didn't think that so many people who know so little about a sport would go to a forum and post about it daily.

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        • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
          Seems like a lot of NSB can't understand hypotheticals.
          you have to understand, thats like someone dominating high schoo football and then me claiming they will overthrow jerry rice as the GOAT.

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          • Originally posted by sugarsmosley View Post
            you have to understand, thats like someone dominating high schoo football and then me claiming they will overthrow jerry rice as the GOAT.
            You have to understand what hypothetical means. I was not saying Lomachencko would topple SRR, but if he achieved what I stated he would have to achieve, would you consider him greater.

            IMO, yes because of the quality of opponents and the weight classes he would have to go through.

            I stated this several times but like I said far too many on NSB don't know what hypothetical means.

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            • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              You have to understand what hypothetical means. I was not saying Lomachencko would topple SRR, but if he achieved what I stated he would have to achieve, would you consider him greater.

              IMO, yes because of the quality of opponents and the weight classes he would have to go through.

              I stated this several times but like I said far too many on NSB don't know what hypothetical means.
              surely just implying that in itself seems a little far fetched and crazy, dont you think?

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              • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                You have to understand what hypothetical means. I was not saying Lomachencko would topple SRR, but if he achieved what I stated he would have to achieve, would you consider him greater.

                IMO, yes because of the quality of opponents and the weight classes he would have to go through.

                I stated this several times but like I said far too many on NSB don't know what hypothetical means.
                I understand the meaning of the word perfectly. Let me put it into a sentence: "Hypothetically, I could lift a house, if I were a giant ant." It makes absolute sense, but ants the size of human beings do not exist. Why waste time talking about it? We already waste enough time around here talking about all kinds of other nonsense. lol

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                • Originally posted by sugarsmosley View Post
                  surely just implying that in itself seems a little far fetched and crazy, dont you think?
                  SRR is seen as untouchable by many as the ATG no 1. It occurred to me that given Lomachencko's title fight in his 2nd fight and the quality around that division and his ambitions of moving up he was capable of trumping SRR record on the quality of fights.

                  I shouldn't really have to spell it out.

                  The argument should be on those lines.

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                  • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                    SRR is seen as untouchable by many as the ATG no 1. It occurred to me that given Lomachencko's title fight in his 2nd fight and the quality around that division and his ambitions of moving up he was capable of trumping SRR record on the quality of fights.

                    I shouldn't really have to spell it out.

                    The argument should be on those lines.
                    Robinson fought 200 bouts, something Lomo won't come anywhere near. Ray fought in an era where legends abounded. He didn't just beat good fighters; "Sugar" beat several ATGs in a long, storied career. How many awesome fighters are in or near 126 today? Vasyl over Ray? Never.

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                    • Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                      Robinson fought 200 bouts, something Lomo won't come anywhere near. Ray fought in an era where legends abounded. He didn't just beat good fighters; "Sugar" beat several ATGs in a long, storied career. How many awesome fighters are in or near 126 today? Vasyl over Ray? Never.
                      So Rigo ain't a ATG.

                      And SRR beat around 20 top fighters.

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