Did Miguel Cotto work his up to 154 lb properly or is he a lazy welterweight?

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  • hayZ
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    #21
    Originally posted by punchr
    Cotto is flabby, though. That's all I really meant. He kind of has a gut.

    At the Mayweather-Cotto weigh-in he wasn't cut up at all.

    When I use the word "lazy" all I mean is that if a fighter has visible flab on him that means perhaps he didn't train to the max like he potentially could have.
    Dude looked shredded vs Pac in 2009 at 145lbs.

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    • GOD-FR33
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      #22
      I don't agree.

      http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4746863527856909&pid=1.7

      Flabby? He looks like a fighter who was in excellent condition here. Just ask Floyd. You don't keep up with a fighter like Floyd without being in excellent condition. In fact, Cotto's fitness has gone to another level compared to earlier in his career, but overall, he never had poor conditioning. He is a professional who acts like it when it comes to preparing for a fight. Unlike James Toney, Chavez Sr. Rid**** Bowe. I could go on and on. This is boxing, not body building.

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      • GOD-FR33
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        #23
        Why though?

        He looked shredded against Manny because he was drained. Again, if you know anything about the science of boxing, you should know that. The same exact thing happened to Canelo. You could even see his adams apple. Smh. He looked pale and emaciated in the face. When you lose weight in your face, that's BAD! His people should've known better for signing that BS contract for a catch-weight. The guy didn't have a pound of fat to lose. He lost MUSCLE!

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          #24
          Originally posted by GOD-FR33
          http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4746863527856909&pid=1.7

          Flabby? He looks like a fighter who was in excellent condition here. Just ask Floyd. You don't keep up with a fighter like Floyd without being in excellent condition. In fact, Cotto's fitness has gone to another level compared to earlier in his career, but overall, he never had poor conditioning. He is a professional who acts like it when it comes to preparing for a fight. Unlike James Toney, Chavez Sr. Rid**** Bowe. I could go on and on. This is boxing, not body building.
          This is what I mean. Cotto looks soft, not toned. Is he gonna be ripped at 160? Not sure...

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            #25
            Originally posted by GOD-FR33
            He looked shredded against Manny because he was drained. Again, if you know anything about the science of boxing, you should know that. The same exact thing happened to Canelo. You could even see his adams apple. Smh. He looked pale and emaciated in the face. When you lose weight in your face, that's BAD! His people should've known better for signing that BS contract for a catch-weight. The guy didn't have a pound of fat to lose. He lost MUSCLE!
            And consequently sacrificed precious, much-needed strength to fight Mayweather. This is why I'm not impressed by Mayweather's last fight -- it has an asterisk attached to it.

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            • KingTito
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              #26
              I just don't think he wants to get down to 147. It's a shame too. I never liked him at 54 and certainly not 60. There's some great fights at WW for him. I highly doubt he'll ever go back down though. He's been pretty clear that JMW is his division now.

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                #27
                Originally posted by GOD-FR33
                http://ts3.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4746863527856909&pid=1.7

                Flabby? He looks like a fighter who was in excellent condition here. Just ask Floyd. You don't keep up with a fighter like Floyd without being in excellent condition.



                but he didn't keep up with floyd. he faded and he couldn't sustain the pressure because he wasn't in great shape.

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                  #28
                  i heard cotto parties hard, cheats on his wife etc

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                    #29
                    Nope.

                    Nope. He has never been "ripped" for any fight. He's not built that way but trust me, he is always in great condition. Against Floyd, through 8-9 rounds, he was fighting his fight. I give Floyd credit for adjusting to what Cotto was doing to him. It had nothing to do with Cotto's condition. He was in excellent shape. Look at Canelo's build for instance. He is a very muscular fighter. He is what you can call, "ripped". Look at Chavez Sr's build. He didn't have a very ripped build, but he was always in great condition. It's all about science kid. Just because a fighter isn't ripped, doesn't mean they aren't in great condition. That is a complete misconception. Look at Chris Arreola 's build. He's flabby and unpleasant to the eye, but guess what? He has excellent stamina. Get me?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by GOD-FR33
                      Nope. He has never been "ripped" for any fight. He's not built that way but trust me, he is always in great condition. Against Floyd, through 8-9 rounds, he was fighting his fight. I give Floyd credit for adjusting to what Cotto was doing to him. It had nothing to do with Cotto's condition. He was in excellent shape. Look at Canelo's build for instance. He is a very muscular fighter. He is what you can call, "ripped". Look at Chavez Sr's build. He didn't have a very ripped build, but he was always in great condition. It's all about science kid. Just because a fighter isn't ripped, doesn't mean they aren't in great condition. That is a complete misconception. Look at Chris Arreola 's build. He's flabby and unpleasant to the eye, but guess what? He has excellent stamina. Get me?


                      He ain't ripped doe.

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