Victor Ortiz training with Joel Diaz now and helping Bradley spar for Pacquiao

[BrokenHat]

Ortiz doesn't jab, never has. He just loves to throw that straight left. He has no defense. He has/had all the physical tools, but he never had great technique. Khan Koed him in the ams in the second round.

[Bigg Rigg]

Luis ain't not slouch! Only Mosley soundly beat him n he broke his hand in that fight. He arguably got robbed vs Hatton n Berto. N the hook he guy Vic with was right on the money!!

[Bigg Rigg]

Ortiz doesn't jab, never has. He just loves to throw that straight left. He has no defense. He has/had all the physical tools, but he never had great technique. Khan Koed him in the ams in the second round.

For real???

[Check_hooks]

Ortiz's jaw is done

If Collazo made him quit imagine what any contender (Thurman, Porter, Rios, etc) would do to him

[alexguiness]

Ortiz doesn't jab, never has. He just loves to throw that straight left. He has no defense. He has/had all the physical tools, but he never had great technique. Khan Koed him in the ams in the second round.

I must have missed that fight...

Seriously though, I think Victor is done as a top level fighter.

He had some talent but maybe it all came to early for him, he is still young but I don't think he has the mental maturity to get over his recent lapse in form.

Collazo is a fine fighter and a real tough opponent, he deserves recognition for the KO.

But...

I think Victor could have made it to the bell and recovered in his corner if he still had the stones.

Victor had a tough time as a kid, I feel for him and wish him well.

[MBE]

Ortiz will be back trust me. He needs to fight to justify his celebrity status.

Plus the kids only 26. He's got about 7 years left in him. People will still want to promote him because of the name.

[Black Barty]

I used to like Ortiz, but after his no show against Collazo I can't take him seriously any more, regardless of who trains him.

[BrokenHat]

For real???

Yea, I know it's crazy. Even then Ortiz was considered a boxing prodigy when Khan koed him. But, Khan has a sensational am pedigree, was almost impossible to beat. AMS r interesting because no one is on peds. In a way, its the only fair boxing battle background.

Ortiz was always highly regarded for his physical ability, fast, and hits hard, but the guy never built a sophisticated boxing technique.

[US Dirk Killer]

Hope Bradley don't ko him

[US Dirk Killer]

Three fights in a row isn't that bad, but he lost two tuneups in a row