Could Floyd Sr. have the game plan to beat Floyd Jr.?

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  • DrOfStyleSlick
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    #21
    Originally posted by HAVISJ
    Kosta, would've been outboxed. He called out Mosley years ago and Mosley wanted 8millon when Floyd couldn't pay him the money, he turned it down. Arum himself said Cotton wasn't ready after Floyd beat the ish out Gatti. Anybody with half a brain would've chosen Oscar over Margarito. The Pac fight was turned down twice by Pac . He didn't want to agree with the random testing and turned down 40mill when Mayweather agreed to all his terms, even the ridiculous 10mill per pound that he was over the weight.
    sad how pac fans say "he agreed to everything"....yet when mayweather said "14 day cutoff" on testing pacs people said "no...well do 24"....then hes hangin up the phone on floyd.....now that he has a fight with bradleys hes all like "pick up the phone floyd...you can call collect"

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    • JHAVIS
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      #22
      Originally posted by DrOfStyleSlick
      sad how pac fans say "he agreed to everything"....yet when mayweather said "14 day cutoff" on testing pacs people said "no...well do 24"....then hes hangin up the phone on floyd.....now that he has a fight with bradleys hes all like "pick up the phone floyd...you can call collect"
      It is sad. Im a fan of both but Floyd seems to get the blame for the fight not happening

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      • DrOfStyleSlick
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        #23
        Originally posted by JHAVIS
        It is sad. Im a fan of both but Floyd seems to get the blame for the fight not happening
        it is indeed sad...im a fan of both too...in fact i went to pacs fights against hatton and cotto....but the delusion of pacs fans and the hatred spewed towards floyd has made me start to hate manny and his fans as the years have gone by...i still am a fan of manny the fighter....but i was a huge fan of his....now i sort of resent the guy...really because of bob arum

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        • WilkinsOlajuwon
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          #24
          There is no real "puzzle." A highly skilled, strong fighter with an excellent jab and reach can neutralize the shoulder roll...but Floyd is just really really good at adjusting.

          He also usually enjoys a sizable reach advantage over his opponents. And he is the best at regulating distance. He knows exactly where to be so that you cant reach him and he can reach you. To me that is his most impressive attribute.

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          • NearHypnos
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            #25
            Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
            There is no real "puzzle." A highly skilled, strong fighter with an excellent jab and reach can neutralize the shoulder roll...but Floyd is just really really good at adjusting.

            He also usually enjoys a sizable reach advantage over his opponents. And he is the best at regulating distance. He knows exactly where to be so that you cant reach him and he can reach you. To me that is his most impressive attribute.
            This. You have to plain outsmart Floyd. The thing is, he comes in with a perfect gameplan as it is and will neutralize your greatest threat or two, and as rounds go by, he takes more and more away until you're buried. It's really impressive how average good fighters look by the 10th round or so... Hate the guy but he's a boxing genius.

            The only thing that has had success is a VERY good jab (and lets face it..who doesnt an excellent jab bother?). The thing is he takes so much away that you'll have a jab but nothing else... It could be by design that he'd rather tank the jab than a right hand or hook. Even his little subtle movements are leading you. Even when he breaks off a clinch he's already established superior footing. His skill set/boxing brain is just crazy and with those reflexes/physical attributes (that honestly he could probably win fights when those fade too because of the way he fights)... He might not be the classic or textbook like boxer but he has among the most desirable skillsets you could want if you were a pro boxer.

            I dont care how much I hate the guy if I could do what he does I would and have zero shame in not taking much punishment...

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            • sugarsmosley
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              #26
              Originally posted by DrOfStyleSlick
              it is indeed sad...im a fan of both too...in fact i went to pacs fights against hatton and cotto....but the delusion of pacs fans and the hatred spewed towards floyd has made me start to hate manny and his fans as the years have gone by...i still am a fan of manny the fighter....but i was a huge fan of his....now i sort of resent the guy...really because of bob arum
              it goes both way. i can't tell you how many times I've been called a dog eating, ****** asian filipino dumbass just for saying I'm a manny pacquiao fan.

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              • DrOfStyleSlick
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                #27
                Originally posted by sugarsmosley
                it goes both way. i can't tell you how many times I've been called a dog eating, ****** asian filipino dumbass just for saying I'm a manny pacquiao fan.
                oh i dont doubt it...ive seen it

                i just think in general...stuff like that would be alot less likely if many people gave floyd his proper respect and just due....instead he has to take a beating about who he fights...who he ducks...his blame for the pac fight not happening.....what he "hasnt" done....what he should do.....i think in general it has made alot of his true fans despise pac when they probably wanted to embrace him

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                • Evol
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                  #28
                  Why do people act like Floyd is a robot or something? All this right game plan talk means nothing if the fighter can't execute it. What needs to happen is for Floyd to fight someone that posses a challenge to him.

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                  • FrankieClutch
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                    #29
                    There's a gameplan "written" for every fighter. Anyone who studies the sport can tell you weak points in fighters' styles, tendencies, etc. but it takes an actual boxer to execute that gameplan and I don't think there are many who can execute the "perfect gameplan" against Floyd.

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                    • JHAVIS
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by sugarsmosley
                      it goes both way. i can't tell you how many times I've been called a dog eating, ****** asian filipino dumbass just for saying I'm a manny pacquiao fan.
                      That's really ****ed up someone would stoop that low and bring race into the equation. Hope you just ignored the fool who said that and you're right, it does go both ways.

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