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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Carved in Stone: One Man’s Boxing Mount Rushmore

    By Lyle Fitzsimmons - It never fails. Whenever I enter a week in need of inspiration for my Tuesday morning labor of boxing love, I have a go-to source who’s never once left me hanging.

    Lebron James.

    What, you were expecting someone else?

    Indeed, when the NBA’s best active player triggered a week’s worth of headlines and sports radio palaver with musings about which players belonged on his historical hoops “Mount Rushmore,” I instinctively thought, “Hey, maybe I can get some mileage out of this, too.”

    And while King James’ picks of Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson were difficult to quarrel with given the completeness of each player chosen, I’m reckoning that assembling a similar list when it comes to boxing might generate a few more cross words of disagreement.

    But first, let’s set some ground rules.

    Because I’m a 44-year-old man who watched his first professional fight in 1977, I’m going to limit myself to that time frame when it comes to deciding who belongs and who doesn’t. Yes, I realize that cheats guys like Muhammad Ali and Ray Robinson, among others, but if I’m not old enough to have seen them fight at their peaks in real-time, then I don’t think it’s my jurisdiction to deem them worthy or unworthy.

    If there are readers who quibble with that approach or find it a ghastly offense to the Willie Peps or Tommy Loughrans of the world, I apologize. And I welcome them to concoct their own lists that reflect those viewpoints. But for these second-day-of-the-week purposes, that’s what we’re going with in terms of who’s considered for the monument being erected here in sunny Southwest Florida. [Click Here To Read More]
  • sdcluser
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    ****ing you Lebron. You overrated mofo.

    You forgots to put Wilt Chamberlain on it.

    The dude scored more outside the ring than you and Kobe and Jordan combined.

    Enough said.

    War Wilt!!!!!!!

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    • Weebler I
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      Don King? I doubt the fighters would agree with you, they'd be up there with their hammer and chisels defacing him.

      Adonis Stevenson is Superman these days, as a clean competitor he warrants it more.

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      • SUBZER0ED
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        I disagree that Hearns got his comeuppance against Leonard in their rematch. Hearns knocked Leonard down twice in that fight and worked him all night, yet was only awarded a draw. I remember watching the fight and felt Hearns had been robbed.

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          Originally posted by Weebler I
          Don King? I doubt the fighters would agree with you, they'd be up there with their hammer and chisels defacing him.

          Adonis Stevenson is Superman these days, as a clean competitor he warrants it more.
          King is a snake, there's no doubt. But he did promote some of the biggest fights of the seventies, eighties and even nineties.

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          • H.B.Viper
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            "Youth is wasted on the young"

            LBJ is so full of himself, it's the kind of thing you would expect from this generation. Just look at Broner, Mayweather, Richard Sherman, & all of those foolish rappers.... All cut from the same cloth of "look at me"
            The worst part of fame is when it's gone. No one will remember them as they wither into old age, & obscurity. Life will be cruel the less humble.
            As of Fitz, and his Mt.Rushmore of boxing, he had me until he mentioned RJJ.
            The org.Floyd Mayweather. self absorbed, proclaimed greatest fighter on the planet. We are talking about someone who also ducked great fighters like Gerald McCleallan, & a primed Mike Mcallum. & refused to give B-Hop a fight once he became his equal until they were both well past the prime time mode of boxers.
            Yep time is cruel. Now he's a gate keeper for Euro trash Cruisers, & lt.heavies.
            Floyd, please read this comment, you will be just like him. Someone will knock you off your perch. Again like Jones, a rival stalked him, and made him pay.
            You falsely retired when PWill was knocking on the door. Now you have Lara, and someone who's really watching, and laying in the weeds like Thurman, & a aggressive under rated fighter like Porter, waiting.
            But, you might be smarter than Jones, and stick to your promise and retire with your deal. You will continue to fight guys like Miadanna, slow easy to hit straight ahead, telegraph plodders that make you look so, so good.

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            • Stoneymatts
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              Quite the rant hbviper. At the end of the day tho jones (especially considering the timeframe fitzsmommons picks) is one of the greatest, Floyd is one of the greatest, and Bron is one of the greatest (not yet top 4 but not far off either). You can comment all you want on their attitudes and rhetoric but who cares. Their skill and talent is blatantly obvious.

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              • H.B.Viper
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                So riddle me this Stoneymatts?

                Originally posted by Stoneymatts
                Quite the rant hbviper. At the end of the day tho jones (especially considering the timeframe fitzsmommons picks) is one of the greatest, Floyd is one of the greatest, and Bron is one of the greatest (not yet top 4 but not far off either). You can comment all you want on their attitudes and rhetoric but who cares. Their skill and talent is blatantly obvious.
                If you beat inferior comp everytime out does that constitute greatness?
                LBJ has the tools, but for him to get over the hump he needed to team up with Wade, & Bosh!
                Mayweather, with all that talent is known for cherrypicking, and not fighting the best of the best. But 2nd tier, and polookas instead of masters of the craft.
                And as far as Jones was, & is concerned, why, oh why "The G-Man" was never on his radar???
                Yes these are have talent, but without true comp. how talented were they if they were never truly taking to the nxt level???

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                • BigAlexSand
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                  G - man was on Roy's Radar being the fact the man beat him in the amatuers. Given the fact Jones only fought for the middleweight title once before letting the title go to go to super middleweight. By the time g - man moved up to super middle with Jones the Bean fight had occurred. Sadly every sport is a business and no matter how you look at it the best will very rarely fight the best anymore. Be it basketball, Boxing, and even UFC.
                  But skill should never be overlooked even with ignorance. Le born is the great but because he is from a bigger media outlet Durant is in 2nd though it's obvious he works with much less help. Mayweather and Pac man won't happen because of rival buisness. Jones vs Cain won't because both are the cash cows.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    I'd put Arum on a boxing Mt. Rushmore before Don King. Just me. Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali have to be on it.

                    Boxing is a damn near impossible sport to limit to 4 names that belong above the others. It's not like basketball, where there are clear players who belong.

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