Why can't Floyd vs GGG happen?

[Martinplateado]

Floyd won't go to Monte Carlo.

or Walmart's backyard

[KJB]

HBO/Showtime.

A MW and a WW.

This.

Floyd isn't some huge WW. He started at 130 and worked his way up to 147. At 154 he is clearly outsized. The man does NOT need to fight at MW anymore than Triple G needs to fight at LHW, or Ward needs to fight at HW. It's unreasonable to ask of him, and frankly most people are calling for it just because they want to see him lose and know that nobody his own size can beat him.

[KJB]

Hasn't he fought junior middleweights before? Why was it ok against De la Hoya and Alvarez, but not ok against Gennady?

Cause Floyd doesn't have to be in fights where he is physically, ridiculously outmatched every fight just because you haters want him to lose. He went to 154 for huge money fights, but was outsized every time. Fighters have the right to fight in their actual weight classes, that's why we have weight classes, the fact that Floyd has fought above 147 three times speaks more to his courage than anything else.

[Ray*]

Seems GGG fanatics have quiet down a bit, thank you lara... Now they suddenly understand the HBO/Showtime Cold War.

[FrankJack]

Cause Floyd doesn't have to be in fights where he is physically, ridiculously outmatched every fight just because you haters want him to lose. He went to 154 for huge money fights, but was outsized every time. Fighters have the right to fight in their actual weight classes, that's why we have weight classes, the fact that Floyd has fought above 147 three times speaks more to his courage than anything else.

Hate or love is irrelevant, KJB. If someone makes the decision to contend in a weightclass, especially on more than one occasion, is it not reasonable that that person will be challenged by those of that class? Or if one's claim is either goat or best in the world, is it unreasonable that others who feel they are the best want to challenge that claim? That is the naturs of the sport Floyd is in. Again, some of these guys such as Sergio and Gennady are willing to put themselves at a disadvantage in order for the opportunity to test such a claim. It is respectable that Floyd has competed there before, indeed. But, let's not pretend that these were not carefully chosen opponents like I had stated before. I expect the exact same thing from any fighter, whether we're talking Gennady, Floyd, Manny, or Sergio (who has been fighting naturally larger men since he took the title from Pavlik, exception being Dzinzurik, I think who came up from 154, if I remember right). I encourage Floyd or any person to legitimately make as much money as they can in this business. But, at the same time, I encourage us to keep it 100 and not lie about what's happening whether it's our most beloved or most abhorrent

[KJB]

Hate or love is irrelevant, KJB. If someone makes the decision to contend in a weightclass, especially on more than one occasion, is it not reasonable that that person will be challenged by those of that class? Or if one's claim is either goat or best in the world, is it unreasonable that others who feel they are the best want to challenge that claim? That is the naturs of the sport Floyd is in. Again, some of these guys such as Sergio and Gennady are willing to put themselves at a disadvantage in order for the opportunity to test such a claim. It is respectable that Floyd has competed there before, indeed. But, let's not pretend that these were not carefully chosen opponents like I had stated before. I expect the exact same thing from any fighter, whether we're talking Gennady, Floyd, Manny, or Sergio (who has been fighting naturally larger men since he took the title from Pavlik, exception being Dzinzurik, I think who came up from 154, if I remember right). I encourage Floyd or any person to legitimately make as much money as they can in this business. But, at the same time, I encourage us to keep it 100 and not lie about what's happening whether it's our most beloved or most abhorrent

No man. These fighters already risk their lives for their sport. By that reasoning RJJ was obligated to fight Lewis. He wasn't. He was brave enough to make a claim at HW, that doesn't mean he owes the division his career. Floyd is not a big Welterweight, he certainly doesn't need to fight MWs to prove himself. Not anymore than Triple G needs to fight at LHW, or Ward needs to fight at HW. Weight classes exist for a reason.
Edit: By your standards I want to see those other fighters ACTUALLY compete in those situations. Triple G's team has bragged about how they'll fight anybody up to 168 but run from Ward. Pa has never actually fought a 154 fighter but fought a beaten Margarito at 151 and fought Cotto at 145. I'm so sick of Floyd being held to a different standard because you haters want him to lose. I'm sorry he is legit better than all of your favorite fighters. Get over it.

[FrankJack]

No man. These fighters already risk their lives for their sport. By that reasoning RJJ was obligated to fight Lewis. He wasn't. He was brave enough to make a claim at HW, that doesn't mean he owes the division his career. Floyd is not a big Welterweight, he certainly doesn't need to fight MWs to prove himself. Not anymore than Triple G needs to fight at LHW, or Ward needs to fight at HW. Weight classes exist for a reason.
Edit: By your standards I want to see those other fighters ACTUALLY compete in those situations. Triple G's team has bragged about how they'll fight anybody up to 168 but run from Ward. Pa has never actually fought a 154 fighter but fought a beaten Margarito at 151 and fought Cotto at 145. I'm so sick of Floyd being held to a different standard because you haters want him to lose. I'm sorry he is legit better than all of your favorite fighters. Get over it.

If I remember right, and I could be wrong, Eoy had actually challenged the likes of Lewis and one of the Klitschkos. I don't question Floyd's bravery or any fighter for that matter. Bravery is not what is in question here, friend. At some point GGG WILL have to challenge the higher weights, if he wants to make the same claim as Floyd. And the same is true for Ward. I hold this standard to every fighter, not just Floyd as you seem to believe. Which why I said what I said in the last sentence of my previous statement. Manny also avoided fights at 154, especially when challenged at 150 by Sergio. He also has picked and chosen. This isn't about me picking on Floyd, bro. I expect the same of anyone. You step into that realm, be prepared for what comes with it. If you don't want certain predators after you don't step foot into their environment. Again, whether it's Floyd, Manny, Ward, whoever, I expect the same thing. Which is why I said hate or love has nothing to do with this.

[KJB]

If I remember right, and I could be wrong, Eoy had actually challenged the likes of Lewis and one of the Klitschkos. I don't question Floyd's bravery or any fighter for that matter. Bravery is not what is in question here, friend. At some point GGG WILL have to challenge the higher weights, if he wants to make the same claim as Floyd. And the same is true for Ward. I hold this standard to every fighter, not just Floyd as you seem to believe. Which why I said what I said in the last sentence of my previous statement. Manny also avoided fights at 154, especially when challenged at 150 by Sergio. He also has picked and chosen. This isn't about me picking on Floyd, bro. I expect the same of anyone. You step into that realm, be prepared for what comes with it. If you don't want certain predators after you don't step foot into their environment. Again, whether it's Floyd, Manny, Ward, whoever, I expect the same thing. Which is why I said hate or love has nothing to do with this.

You probably shouldn't expect that of prize fighters because it isn't fair. Weight classes exit for a reason.

[hugh grant]

No man. These fighters already risk their lives for their sport. By that reasoning RJJ was obligated to fight Lewis. He wasn't. He was brave enough to make a claim at HW, that doesn't mean he owes the division his career. Floyd is not a big Welterweight, he certainly doesn't need to fight MWs to prove himself. Not anymore than Triple G needs to fight at LHW, or Ward needs to fight at HW. Weight classes exist for a reason.
Edit: By your standards I want to see those other fighters ACTUALLY compete in those situations. Triple G's team has bragged about how they'll fight anybody up to 168 but run from Ward. Pa has never actually fought a 154 fighter but fought a beaten Margarito at 151 and fought Cotto at 145. I'm so sick of Floyd being held to a different standard because you haters want him to lose. I'm sorry he is legit better than all of your favorite fighters. Get over it.

Floyds not held to a different standard. If FLoyd was held to a differnet standard he wouldnt be fighting the likes of Maidana or khan, whilst Pac is fighting Bradley.
If he is going to avoid p4p fighters like Bradley, move up and fight GGG. Floyd hasnt taken risks, fighting DLH, Cotto and Saul Alverez who campaigned at weights lower than 154 most of their careers hardly makes Floyd brave does it? He is happy to bloat JMM up, so he can fight GGG indeed to make up for all those years he went AWOL.

Time for Floyd to fight someone who is visibly taller than him and not small sized guys.

[Daddy T]

the reason people keep throwing GGG's name around is because floyd won't fight the best in/around his own division. ... I mean he won't fight pac ... won't fight bradley etc. So people start saying ok then you won't fight who you should be fighting so how about GGG?

if he was was lining up pac next, bradley after that followed by danny garcia etc etc I for one would be delighted and imo nobody would bother mentioning GGG. But when he refuses to go up AND refuses to fight the best in or around his weight people rightly get pissed at him ... I mean kahn or maidana?? sheesh he's supposed to be p4p no 1.