Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Talks Lara, April Return, Monte Carlo

[secondsin]

So what would it take for Lara to come over to HBO and fight GGG?

This:

Tom Loeffler ***8207;@TomLoeffler1 Feb 9

@MarkEOrtega he is not approved by HBO and never on our radar, he should be calling out Quillin, if he wins, he becomes interesting

Tom Loeffler ***8207;@TomLoeffler1 Feb 10

@MarkEOrtega @RedZone_Moss @hector_gomez810 a unification fight would be approved by HBO, that's the difference

I'd really hope they'd make Geale for the summer fight, he's already displayed interest and is by far the more significant fight for GGG, as much fun as Kirkland might be for a few rounds. If Kirkland could win 1 or 2 fights at MW, he becomes more relevent - but for me, it's just a kinda unecessary fight for Golovkin.

I'm pretty sure it's gonna be Lee for April so we get (hopefully)..

Lee
Geale
Maravilla

With the possibility of Kirkland filling in either of the second 2 slots if they don't come together.

So for all the GGG fans saying that Floyd was ducking him, now you know the truth. GGG can't fight anyone not with HBO. This makes it easy for him to say that NO ONE wants to fight him, because he won't fight Ward, he can't fight Quillen or Lara or Canelo. He should target Chavez Jr or the Martinez/Cotto winner.

GGG does plan on fighting Ward, next year, probably and Lara was never on Team GGG's radar since, they feel, he has nothing to offer to them at the moment. The names mentioned for Golovkin at 154 were Canelo and Cotto. If HBO approves it and Golden Boy is willing, it is possible to match-up Golovkin against a Showtime/GBP fighter.

Edit: The only way Floyd is ducking GGG is by not calling him out. Golovkin is willing to come down to 152(should of never said that but ok) as Canelo did and GGG is the same height as Oscar Del La Hoya (5'10˝). As far as sizes go, it is nothing Mayweather hasn't faced before. I'm sure HBO would allow for that fight to happen. It's a great opportunity for Golovkin and he could come back to HBO a bigger star because of it. I remember Floyd mentioning Sergio Martinez as a potential opponent, why not Golovkin?

While I understand the cold war situation, I don't like that Loaffler isn't showing any willingness to make an honest effort to make a Lara fight. Lara's team just can't call and ask HBO to put him against Golovkin. Loaffler needs to push for it otherwise he's just part of the problem.

Same thing could be said for Lara/GBP. What are their terms? Any fighter can call out another fighter without fully understanding their situation. Do you really think that someone like Tom Loeffler doesn't know the ins-and-outs of the business? As Loeffler said, Lara was not even on their radar and there is good reason for that. At least Loeffler suggested that if Lara were to become Champion at 160, HBO would approve it.

People also aren't paying attention to the fact that fighters have obligations to networks and promotional companies. If HBO says you fight on a certain date against a certain opponent, while the fighter, team, and promotional company have say... that network is really going to dictate things. You can't just jump into the ring with whomever just like that.

Depends on the situation, but pretty much this.

Golovkin says he would like to fight every month but you don't see that happening.

Is Sturm a possibility? Not sure who he has contracts with.

Sturm is the ATG GGG Ducker.

[DoktorSleepless]

IDK, whilst I myself would quite like the fight, I can understand that K2 just don't have much interest.

Furthermore if Lara prsents a serious offer, having consulted with Schaeffer / Haymon and says 'look, Haymon and Schaeffer have agreed to me fighting on HBO even with options, is there any way this can get made?' - I can imagine Loeffler taking it a bit more seriously, but right now, there's just a twitter message or two. Why would Loeffler start pulling out the stops to get a fight made which Lara might not even be properly serious about?

I'd say if Lara really wants this fight, he'll have to put in a little more effort that a brief tweet.

Lara's manager already came out and said that the fight can happen and all they have to do is talk with them. It was not just Lara's twitter. There's nothing on Lara's side that's holding up the fight. GBP has no problem working with HBO. It's HBO that banned them. Laras's team is in no position to make an offer because the money comes from HBO, so it's up to Golovkin's team to present an offer. Usually how it works is that the lead promoter goes to HBO to pitch a fight. After HBO approves, HBO gives a license fee figure they're willing to pay.

[JakeNDaBox]

So is K2 saying HBO is preventing this fight. Are the networks also dividing boxing? This is out of control and needs to be fixed. This bad enough we have promotional companies at war. Do what is right for the sport and your business will prosper.

How did you come to that conclusion?

If Lara were made available to HBO, I'm quite certain they'd accept him as an opponent. That's up to Golden Boy and Al Haymon.

[DoktorSleepless]

How did you come to that conclusion?

If Lara were made available to HBO, I'm quite certain they'd accept him as an opponent. That's up to Golden Boy and Al Haymon.

HBO banned Golden Boy, not the other way around.

[hitking]

How hard is it for some people to understand that HBO holds the broadcast rights to Golovkin's fights in North America. Lara is a GB fighter and GB is not doing business with HBO at all.

Also, don't kid yourselves. Lara would get flattened, and easily. To say otherwise would be downright silly and ignorant. He is stepping up to 160 against the biggest puncher in the sport, who also happens to be a very good boxer.

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Get real.

Funny, its perfectly OK for HBO not to business with GBP fighters when it comes to GGG not fighting Lara. But Floyd has an exclusive Showtime contract, much like GGG's with HBO. And even Arum is on record saying Showtime doesn't want to, and isn't gonna do business with him. Yet Floyd is ducking Pac. That my friend is why you're a f.uckin' joke.

BTW, sure GGG would be favored against Lara. But GGG's defense is leaky as hell and Lara is very comfortable fighting going backwards. So I could easily see Lara staying on his bicycle and boucing lead straight lefts off GGG's head all night. Especially if GGG loses his discipline and starts following Lara around the ring instead of cutting off the ring.

[MDPopescu]

To be completely honest with you bro, I don't want this fight to happen at all. Not even to shove it in the haters faces... It's just a waste like the Adama fight was. Same with Kirkland... but then again this is what happens when all the top names are ducking you.

Only worthy opponents due to their stature would be Ward or Martinez. Chavez Jr would be an acceptable fight as well.

I don't have to "be convinced" about what's happening with GGG at 160...

About Martinez: I honestly don't see Sergio being able to take a Golovkin fight.
About Ward: Ward is very tough (the toughest in the sport to date)... Before fighting Ward, GGG would have to fight guys like B-Hop, Dirrell, Chavez Jr. -- that's my opinion...

[hitking]

To be completely honest with you bro, I don't want this fight to happen at all. Not even to shove it in the haters faces... It's just a waste like the Adama fight was. Same with Kirkland... but then again this is what happens when all the top names are ducking you.

Only worthy opponents due to their stature would be Ward or Martinez. Chavez Jr would be an acceptable fight as well.

LOL!!! Ya'll ****** muf.uckas are funny. How does one make themselves "worthy" of fighting a guy who's signature win is Matthew Macklin? I'd say winning a FNF's main event makes you "worthy" of fighting a muf.ucka with that pathetic a resume.

[JFalu]

I don't have to "be convinced" about what's happening with GGG at 160...

About Martinez: I honestly don't see Sergio being able to take a Golovkin fight.
About Ward: Ward is very tough (the toughest in the sport to date)... Before fighting Ward, GGG would have to fight guys like B-Hop, Dirrell, Chavez Jr. -- that's my opinion...

I agree. He should work his way up to Ward. That fight isn't happening soon. He said Ward is/was his favorite fighters and has a lot of respect for him. He said he would like to see him in the ring in the future. But before that happens he has a lot of other fish to fry. Bhop is a Light Heavyweight so that won't happen. But Chavez Jr and Martinez would be golden.

[MDPopescu]

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[MDPopescu]

I agree. He should work his way up to Ward. That fight isn't happening soon. He said Ward is/was his favorite fighters and has a lot of respect for him. He said he would like to see him in the ring in the future. But before that happens he has a lot of other fish to fry. Bhop is a Light Heavyweight so that won't happen. But Chavez Jr and Martinez would be golden.

B-hop (as he did before in Bute's case) was ready to take Ward's place and to fight GGG... B-Hop sees Andre as his "protégé"...