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  • #81
    If this was Pac or Floyd, they'd be getting bashed left and right. JMM somehow gets a pass, though. Go figure.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by ironmt View Post
      This Is true, however Pacquiao and Mayweather among others are criticized and labeled duckers on a daily basis for this very reason.
      Its an unfair label. Every fighter/manager/promoter/matchmaker has this mindset in boxing. Its why guys like Lara can't get big fights.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Southpawology View Post
        THIS IS A GREAT THING!!! It all but solidifies a ruslan/rios showdown. Process of elimination people!!!

        Bradley vs Pac II

        Marquez vs Alvarado

        That leaves only 2 left in TopRanks stable...

        Rios vs Ruslan
        But Ruslan isn't a top rank fighter, he is with banner promotions.

        Damn you don't know ***** about boxing.

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        • #84
          Has PAC ducked anybody? ..ducked anybody in his weight class that was a viable opponent (where money and status made sense)? PAC would fight anybody.

          Difference with JMM... Is that NUMEROUS times. Other boxers have called him out to fight and they were legit fights at the time. Kahn, Rios and now Provo. JMM refused each time. They are/were all risky to JMM.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Strategic1 View Post
            Has PAC ducked anybody? ..ducked anybody in his weight class that was a viable opponent (where money and status made sense)? PAC would fight anybody.

            Difference with JMM... Is that NUMEROUS times. Other boxers have called him out to fight and they were legit fights at the time. Kahn, Rios and now Provo. JMM refused each time. They are/were all risky to JMM.
            He just picked Rios over Alvarado himself
            Neither fight was going to outsell the other so whats the excuse ?Alvarado beat Rios, and before you mention JMM/Bradley turning down a fight that's irrelevant as he could've still fought the winner of Alvarado/ Rios.

            He also could've fought Mosley after he beat Margarito. I believe Roach mentioned he was too "risky" so instead they waited after he took a loss and a draw to fight him and in the meantime fought Cotto at a CW.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Dinamita 03 View Post
              He just picked Rios over Alvarado himself
              Neither fight was going to outsell the other so whats the excuse ?Alvarado beat Rios, and before you mention JMM/Bradley turning down a fight that's irrelevant as he could've still fought the winner of Alvarado/ Rios.

              He also could've fought Mosley after he beat Margarito. I believe Roach mentioned he was too "risky" so instead they waited after he took a loss and a draw to fight him and in the meantime fought Cotto at a CW.
              You need to get with the program. and Yea, both JMM and Bradley turned him down first.

              Alvarado was in the mix, but there were reports of a hand injury and his hand not healing in time. Stop trying to make excuses for JMM.

              lol @ PAC ducking Mosley. So he decided to fight Cotto instead who beat Mosley. Plus the Cotto fight was a big money fight. Timing wasn't simply right.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Strategic1 View Post
                Has PAC ducked anybody?
                Mayweather on May 2012, Lara, Cotto's rematch at 154, Molina, Andrade.

                That's enough yet.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Strategic1 View Post
                  Has PAC ducked anybody? ..ducked anybody in his weight class that was a viable opponent (where money and status made sense)? PAC would fight anybody.

                  Difference with JMM... Is that NUMEROUS times. Other boxers have called him out to fight and they were legit fights at the time. Kahn, Rios and now Provo. JMM refused each time. They are/were all risky to JMM.
                  Pac took the higher reward fight with Eric Morales over Zahir Raheem who had just beaten him. Again, nothing wrong with that but Pac looks at risk/reward just like any other fighters do.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Strategic1 View Post
                    You need to get with the program. and Yea, both JMM and Bradley turned him down first.

                    Alvarado was in the mix, but there were reports of a hand injury and his hand not healing in time. Stop trying to make excuses for JMM.

                    lol @ PAC ducking Mosley. So he decided to fight Cotto instead who beat Mosley. Plus the Cotto fight was a big money fight. Timing wasn't simply right.
                    I didn't make a single excuse for Marquez I'm simply answering your hypocritical question.

                    What the hell does Alvarado was in the mix mean? There was only two guys Rios and Alvarado in the mix and that hand injury is ridiculous considering Alvarado and Provodnikov fought a month earlier than Pacquiao

                    I never said PAC was ducking but Mosley was the lineal champ and was coming off beating by tko the #1 welterweight at the time while Cotto barely got past Clottey. Both would have done great numbers and both did similar ppv buys

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                    • #90
                      Good fight, awesome double header. This pretty much all but guarantees Provo-Rios is happening.

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