Why does most people here gives ward a pass

[Hougigo]

It's SO freaking annoying at this point how people say ****** things like, "Golovkin needs to step up. Golovkin needs to improve his competition. Golovkin needs to get better fights."

No, his punk ass, scared division needs to step up and stop making excuses why they can't fight Golovkin. It's irritating how people see Golovkin's team trying to make these fights, yet pretend he doesn't want them, like it's his fault Murray and Geale and Barker and Sturm and Quillin and almost everyone who matters has told him no at some point.

Then they say "he should move up," then turn around and get angry when people ask other fighters to move up and say they shouldn't be criticized for wanting to stay in their division.

Nope, Gennady has been ducking all these guys all along.
He only asked Geale when Geale couldn't fight...knowing he wouldn't take that fight.
He didn't move his fight week, obvious duck there.
Golovkin always tried to fight Murray in the States knowing he had a passport problem, never anywhere else. Another obvious duck
I don't know how he's ducking Sturm, but he's ducking Sturm.

Anybody else you name, he's ducking

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

Ward has accomplished a lot in his career. He definitely deserves credit. However, his talk and inactivity are starting to wear a bit thin.

[TOBYLEE1]

Ward is the man at 168. How about that is the weight he feels the most confortable in and doesn't want to move. It is not his fault that Froch won't rematch him and Dirrell simply won't fight him.

I never heard him say that he is going to fight at 175 any time soon. If any 160 pound challenges him they got to go up to him. Dawson volunteered himself to 168, can't fault him for that.

I really wish that he moved up because the 175 pund division is hot

[Daddy T]

He ask Dawson to go down
Now he want ggg to move up
Most of his fights must be in his hometown

It's not like I mind about ggg going up to fight ward but ward seems to always be the one challenging and demanding

I hear you. Ward has to have everything his own way and either expects people to drain or go up to fight him. never agrees to go up or go down himself.

[bojangles1987]

GGG is taking relatively easy fights while he waits for a Sergio fight. All the other MW's are doing the exact same thing. Just like they aren't fighting him, he isn't fighting a guy like Mora, who has called him out same way GGG callled the other MW's out.

WHy is it ok for GGG but not the other guys?

Additionally, all the oter MW's have not been on record as saying they will fight EVERYONE from 154-168.

Why is it wrong to ask GGG to live up to this statement?

Its hard to have it both ways.

This is exactly what I mean.

Golovkin is trying to fight all these other guys, and every single one of them have turned him down. He wants the best of his division, he isn't choosing to fight nobodies and wait for Martinez. These punks are forcing this upon him. They're trying to force him out of the division by not fighting him, and it works every time someone claims he's trying to cherry pick bums and needs to move up.

We should be railing hard on the rest of the division for not fighting Golovkin, not on Golovkin when his team is doing the right thing. They are the reason Golovkin's record isn't better right now. They are the reason Golovkin might end up having to leave middleweight. Yet Golovkin is the one being blamed for everyone else's ducking.

****ing ridiculous.

[thuggery]

Not to mention he cheats in all of his fights with excessive holding and headbutting in his hometown. It doesn't surprise me though.

[BigZigga]

This again? I may be in the minority but Ward DID NOT ask Chad to move to 168. He wanted to do it. It was his idea. The win isn't the greatest in retrospect but I don't know why people blame Ward. It's not his fault. He should move up to light heavy at this point.

[Citizen Koba]

Ward cleared his division out. GGG called ward out and then ducked when accepted. Dawson wanted to move down, Ward didn't demand it. The real question is why does GGG get a pass? Him and ward both medaled in the same olympics yet Ward is established p4p and GGG is still fighting Adamas.

The question is why does GGG get a pass, not why does Ward. GGGs been called out by top names after saying anyone from 154-168 can get it, yet fights journeyman (if that) and continues to chase a 147 lb fighter on a different network, yet different networks are why he won't fight Lara who is saying he'd move up. He makes himself seem most feared by turning down top fighters and then saying he can't get big fights.

Your point kinda makes sense but is easily answered, for all his hype, GGG hasn't cleaned out his own division. hell he's fought perhaps one (or if you're being generous two) top 10s.

Ward's cleaned his division, and now has nothing left to do.

Since you decided to bring Golovkin up, what do you think HBO may have learned from Wards example about how to milk the most profit out of a major talent?

[paulf]

He did not ask Dawson to go down.
He did not ask Dawson to go down.
He did not ask Dawson to go down.
He did not ask Dawson to go down.
He did not ask Dawson to go down.
He did not ask Dawson to go down.

Max Kellerman: You are now, once again, the light heavyweight champion of the world. You've gotten rid of all the old fighters in the division but there's some new interesting young fighters here. Any interest you in particular?

Chad Dawson: I mean I would love a fight with Andre Ward. I mean I think that would make for a great fight.

Max Kellerman: Super middleweight champion.

Chad Dawson: Super middleweight champion. I could make 168 or we could do it at 175 —a catch weight— it don't matter to me. I wanna make my statement known. I want everybody to know who I am. I wanna go after the big dogs.

People keep rewriting history in a pathetic attempt to discredit Ward in any way possible.

[DoubleLeftH00k]

He did not ask Dawson to go down.
He did not ask Dawson to go down.
He did not ask Dawson to go down.
He did not ask Dawson to go down.
He did not ask Dawson to go down.
He did not ask Dawson to go down.

Max Kellerman: You are now, once again, the light heavyweight champion of the world. You've gotten rid of all the old fighters in the division but there's some new interesting young fighters here. Any interest you in particular?

Chad Dawson: I mean I would love a fight with Andre Ward. I mean I think that would make for a great fight.

Max Kellerman: Super middleweight champion.

I thi
Chad Dawson: Super middleweight champion. I could make 168 or we could do it at 175 —a catch weight— it don't matter to me. I wanna make my statement known. I want everybody to know who I am. I wanna go after the big dogs.

People keep rewriting history in a pathetic attempt to discredit Ward in any way possible.

Thats the problem coz dawson tries to challenge ward and say if his fine with it we can do catchweight 175 but still ward picked 168

Did u give ward credit for beating dawson at 168?
Coz I sure didnt and wont