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  • bojangles1987
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    #31
    It's SO freaking annoying at this point how people say ****** things like, "Golovkin needs to step up. Golovkin needs to improve his competition. Golovkin needs to get better fights."

    No, his punk ass, scared division needs to step up and stop making excuses why they can't fight Golovkin. It's irritating how people see Golovkin's team trying to make these fights, yet pretend he doesn't want them, like it's his fault Murray and Geale and Barker and Sturm and Quillin and almost everyone who matters has told him no at some point.

    Then they say "he should move up," then turn around and get angry when people ask other fighters to move up and say they shouldn't be criticized for wanting to stay in their division.

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    • BostonGuy
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      #32
      Andre Ward should never ever have to make any concessions to his opponent to make a fight. Andre Ward is a P4P bar-none ATG fighter - if you have the chance to fight him - you should feel honored to be in the same ring as such a great talent and not even think of entertaining any thoughts about him making any concessions.

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #33
        Dawson wanted to move down, he did and got beat not because he was drained which I saw nothing to suggest that he was but because Ward was better than him....if GGG wants to challenge him then he should move up if Ward has no interest in moving to MW and challenging for a paper title.

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        • El Angel
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          #34
          Ward actually cleaned out his division and is THE MAN at SMW. GGG's situation is not the same at all.

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          • The Hammer
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            #35
            Originally posted by bojangles1987
            It's SO freaking annoying at this point how people say ****** things like, "Golovkin needs to step up. Golovkin needs to improve his competition. Golovkin needs to get better fights."

            No, his punk ass, scared division needs to step up and stop making excuses why they can't fight Golovkin. It's irritating how people see Golovkin's team trying to make these fights, yet pretend he doesn't want them, like it's his fault Murray and Geale and Barker and Sturm and Quillin and almost everyone who matters has told him no at some point.

            Then they say "he should move up," then turn around and get angry when people ask other fighters to move up and say they shouldn't be criticized for wanting to stay in their division.

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            • FrankieBruno
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              #36
              ward has a proven track record

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              • Grimgash
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                #37
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                Ward was injured before the Dawson fight. Since then he's spent his time trying to break out of his contract and waiting on easy money fights like Chavez Junior.

                Golovkin isn't trying to slack, that's the difference. He's a middleweight, and shouldn't be criticized for wanting to stay in a division that suits him. He's being denied the best fights in his division because no one wants to fight him. Criticize his competition if you want, but don't pretend Golovkin isn't seeking out better.
                The sad thing is, in his division there isn't much better. Like I've said 160 is weak, he's doing what he should if he wants to stay there, but I'm just saying stop with the 154-168 nonsense from his team and he'll have no complaint from me.

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                • RubenSonny
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Ward has paid his dues. He's earned the right to call shots.
                  At what point did he pay his dues and at what point was he calling the shots?

                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                  Dawson wanted to move down, he did and got beat not because he was drained which I saw nothing to suggest that he was but because Ward was better than him....if GGG wants to challenge him then he should move up if Ward has no interest in moving to MW and challenging for a paper title.
                  What would suggest he was drained?

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                  • Hougigo
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                    #39
                    Because Golovkin said he'd fight anyone, so he crucified himself
                    I mean, Ward's never ever said he'd move up to 175 at any time.
                    Ducklovkin the ducking duck

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987
                      It's SO freaking annoying at this point how people say ****** things like, "Golovkin needs to step up. Golovkin needs to improve his competition. Golovkin needs to get better fights."

                      No, his punk ass, scared division needs to step up and stop making excuses why they can't fight Golovkin. It's irritating how people see Golovkin's team trying to make these fights, yet pretend he doesn't want them, like it's his fault Murray and Geale and Barker and Sturm and Quillin and almost everyone who matters has told him no at some point.

                      Then they say "he should move up," then turn around and get angry when people ask other fighters to move up and say they shouldn't be criticized for wanting to stay in their division.
                      GGG is taking relatively easy fights while he waits for a Sergio fight. All the other MW's are doing the exact same thing. Just like they aren't fighting him, he isn't fighting a guy like Mora, who has called him out same way GGG callled the other MW's out.

                      WHy is it ok for GGG but not the other guys?

                      Additionally, all the oter MW's have not been on record as saying they will fight EVERYONE from 154-168.

                      Why is it wrong to ask GGG to live up to this statement?

                      Its hard to have it both ways.

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