Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: If Mayweather Calls To Fight, Then It Will Be On

[The Big Dunn]

Floyd offered 40 million with no PPV sharing to the biggest boxing star on the planet. Please justify why Manny should accept 40 million when Floyd would be looking at 120 million.

Because he refused the 50/50 offer. Had he not, this offer wouldn' even be discussed. He says he wants the fight, prove it by agreeing to an offer.

because its floyd, even if floyd offer pac $1, dunn would be on here saying manny ducked floyd for not taking that offer.. funny shiiet is dunn even admits that the 40mil offer was bogus but he cant seem to stop bringing it up because he has nothing left to talk about to make his point so he bounce back on the 40mil offer to make it seem like manny was the one who didnt want this fight.

You can make it about me or floyd all you want. Its about Manny's actions. He refused the fight twice. You can't change that.

You are alot like sade darkar. Your a manny fan who holds other fighters accountable when they do the same things manny did yet find a way to give manny a pass everytime.

Manny talks about wanting the fight, his actions never match his words.

[BoxingScribe]

Just so you understand when we are discussing the NO PPV MONEY for Manny, it means that we are discussing 2012 figures. Yes, it would change now ..... what is the magic number now is pointless because Floyd has new roadblocks put in place!!!

This is precisely the point. Floyd made a call in 2012. If Floyd calls and offers him $10 million, do you think that is fair? Of course not, because YOU think Manny is entitled to PPV revenue. But he's not because he is no longer a draw.

[Evol]

Because he refused the 50/50 offer. Had he not, this offer wouldn' even be discussed. He says he wants the fight, prove it by agreeing to an offer.



You can make it about me or floyd all you want. Its about Manny's actions. He refused the fight twice. You can't change that.

You are alot like sade darkar. Your a manny fan who holds other fighters accountable when they do the same things manny did yet find a way to give manny a pass everytime.

Manny talks about wanting the fight, his actions never match his words.

he refused the fight twice? well look at the reasons behind it, thats like saying floyd ducked manny because manny didnt wanna do ost. u see how dumb u sound? ur only pointing out that pac refused floyds offer but u failed to point out what the offer was and what manny could be getting. atleast manny is saying he wants the fight, have we hear floyd say the same? after manny agreed to ost floyd stopped saying he wanna fight manny, before that floyd would run his mouth all day about take the test we got a fight lmao!

[Evol]

This is precisely the point. Floyd made a call in 2012. If Floyd calls and offers him $10 million, do you think that is fair? Of course not, because YOU think Manny is entitled to PPV revenue. But he's not because he is no longer a draw.

when floyd called him and made him that 40mil offer, pac was still very much a draw.

[jcpryor]

Floyd offered 40 million with no PPV sharing to the biggest boxing star on the planet. Please justify why Manny should accept 40 million when Floyd would be looking at 120 million.

He'll fight for free now, so it shouldn't really matter. Its hilarious to me that people "laugh" at making 40 million dollars. Exactly how much money do you think Pacquiao would make if he, for example, took a 60-40 split?

[Evol]

Because he refused the 50/50 offer. Had he not, this offer wouldn' even be discussed. He says he wants the fight, prove it by agreeing to an offer.



You can make it about me or floyd all you want. Its about Manny's actions. He refused the fight twice. You can't change that.

You are alot like sade darkar. Your a manny fan who holds other fighters accountable when they do the same things manny did yet find a way to give manny a pass everytime.

Manny talks about wanting the fight, his actions never match his words.

and dont compare me to other posters, so your not doing the same thing ur preaching?? u dont talk about other boxers but when it comes to floyd he can do no wrong? i've called manny out more than u called floyd out, matter fact i dont even recall u ever calling floyd out. practice what u preach dunn..

[The Big Dunn]

Just so you understand as you are leaving an important part out:
If you and your friends won the lotto jackpot and your friends give you just 42% more than you make annually, would you be saying what you said above or would you be saying "You guys are joking right?"

The pot was bigger for a Mayweather vs Manny fight so they would both have received a great payday and should be proportionally better. Floyd knew that that offer would be refused by Manny. For sure he knew that Arum certainly would have refused. Furthermore, giving that amount to Manny didn't mean that is what he would get. Manny would need to give his team their share as well. So who knows if Manny would even have received as much as what he usually made back then for a fight.

What some of you Floyd fans still don't get is that it was NOT a serious offer. Floyd just wanted a way out and got it. AGAIN and AGAIN!!!

we are not discussing the lottery so stop it. Just point out that in lieu of any ppv money, manny was going to be guaranteed $40 mil. Be honest even if you are mad. thats what adults do.

Not the floyd knew manny would refuse excuse again. You would never allow anyone to use this if Manny was making an offer.

Whenever manny refuses an offer-posters like you say the offer wasn't real. whenever someone refuses a manny offer-this excuse can't be used.

Like I said, just be honest and point out the facts about the $40 mil, no ppv offer.

[The Big Dunn]

and dont compare me to other posters, so your not doing the same thing ur preaching?? u dont talk about other boxers but when it comes to floyd he can do no wrong? i've called manny out more than u called floyd out, matter fact i dont even recall u ever calling floyd out. practice what u preach dunn..

Of course you have seen me call floyd out. Sometimes you even agree with those criticisms. you are just posting this now because its easier for you to label me rather than defend manny's actions.

I didn't post that you never called manny out. I said that his actions that you justify you don't when other fighters do the same.

Its easy to call manny out, what's problematic for his fans is to apply the same logic to him as you guys do others.

[JLBlades]

Because he refused the 50/50 offer. Had he not, this offer wouldn' even be discussed. He says he wants the fight, prove it by agreeing to an offer.

So let me get this. You feel that because negotiations fell thru mainly because of drug testing the first time. Since Manny changed his mind on this issue, and agreed to testing, he should now accept an unfair deal.
Is that the point you are trying to make? Negotiations didn't work once, so he should take a terrible offer to prove he wants to fight?

[BoxingScribe]

when floyd called him and made him that 40mil offer, pac was still very much a draw.

That was then, 2 losses, one a brutal KO, and a stinker later. 2012. Manny says Floyd has to call him. HE DID. Why doesn't Manny say "If he calls me with an offer of $$$$$, we can fight? I'll tell you why. Because at the end of the day, Manny has no say so in who he fights. That final decision is Arums. Look, Manny has a fight coming up with Arum. He hasn't had a dominant performance since the PED accusation. His stock has dropped dramatically. His fans probably think he is worth 50-50 but realistically, he isn't. Canelo got $10 million. And that was the 3rd highest non-heavyweight PPV ever. Manny didn't crack 500k in his last fight. People aren't as interested in him fighting as before. So unless he is willing to initiate negotiations, him nor his fans should be talking about the fight. The last time Manny's people tried to negotiate was fall of 2009. Thats a LONG time ago in boxing years. Floyd has tried to negotiate twice and Manny did not counter Floyds offer, he REFUSED to entertain the first time they were approached and the second time he refused to negotiate on the phone. "50-50 we fight.....then hands the phone to Koncz." That TO ME doesn't sound like someone who wants to fight.