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  • hitking
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    #31
    Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
    If HBO gave a **** about Floyd they would've offered more money to him than Showtime.


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    Honestly, I think HBO dodged a giant bullet with Showtime signing Floyd to that deal. I don't know if there was a bidding war. But the way that thing is structured, I don't think Showtime is gonna make one red cent off of this Floyd deal. I'm curious to see what they made off Floyd-Canelo. Because that was the biggest press tour and the most promoted event I think I've ever seen. And that **** wasn't free or cheap.

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    • mariooftw
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      #32
      The fault isn't on a single person. Arum has to take some blame too. Arum needs to fall off the Earth so we can see the best fights the sport has to offer

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      • sanyantho
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        #33
        Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
        You know boxing is whack when it has fans choosing sides over networks. Dumbest crap I've ever seen. What aimless, uninformed fanboy trash. A real fan likes whatever fight is on no matter when or where. Im so ashamed of what fans have turned into and its all Manny and Floyd's fault.
        agree big time

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        • R-NEAL
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          #34
          Ok, so lets all act like Bob Arum didnt try to play both sides by sending Manny to Showtime to fight Mosley, when HBO didnt let him get his way and ending getting the HBO exec fired. And lets forget Pac signing a contract with Golden Boy and Top Rank at the same time... None of these factors contributed anything over time.

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          • WilkinsOlajuwon
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            #35
            Originally posted by hitking
            Honestly, I think HBO dodged a giant bullet with Showtime signing Floyd to that deal. I don't know if there was a bidding war. But the way that thing is structured, I don't think Showtime is gonna make one red cent off of this Floyd deal. I'm curious to see what they made off Floyd-Canelo. Because that was the biggest press tour and the most promoted event I think I've ever seen. And that **** wasn't free or cheap.
            I dont think many people realize that networks DONT LIKE PPV. If it were up to the networks every fight would be a regular broadcast. Promoters and cable companies earn the lion's share of the revenue.

            Showtime did its thing with Floyd because they wanted to make a splash and shake things up. It was a branding play not a financial one.

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            • jas
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              #36
              Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
              I dont think many people realize that networks DONT LIKE PPV. If it were up to the networks every fight would be a regular broadcast. Promoters and cable companies earn the lion's share of the revenue.

              Showtime did its thing with Floyd because they wanted to make a splash and shake things up. It was a branding play not a financial one.
              Wow . Completely disagree...just wow. The networks love ppv.

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              • hitking
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                #37
                Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
                I dont think many people realize that networks DONT LIKE PPV. If it were up to the networks every fight would be a regular broadcast. Promoters and cable companies earn the lion's share of the revenue.

                Showtime did its thing with Floyd because they wanted to make a splash and shake things up. It was a branding play not a financial one.
                To my understand. Fights go to PPV because the networks don't wanna front all the money to satisfy what the fighters want guarantees.

                As for Showtime's motives for signing Floyd. I totally agree.

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                • WilkinsOlajuwon
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by jas
                  Wow . Completely disagree...just wow. The networks love ppv.
                  This really isnt a debate. I suggest you go research the history of PPV and who does what in a PPV production.

                  Keep in mind when you are watching a PPV, you arent watching HBO or Showtime.

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                  • jas
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
                    This really isnt a debate. I suggest you go research the history of PPV and who does what in a PPV production.

                    Keep in mind when you are watching a PPV, you arent watching HBO or Showtime.
                    since you clearly are talking out of your asss im not even gonna bother debating with you.

                    the networks love pay per view.

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                    • WilkinsOlajuwon
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jas
                      since you clearly are talking out of your asss im not even gonna bother debating with you.

                      the networks love pay per view.
                      LOL. OK I accept the white flag. Listen man, if you dont know, you dont know.

                      If you want some links I 'd be glad to give them to you, although this is common knowledge.

                      How embarrassing for you.

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