Who will you blame if Froch-Groves II doesn't happen?

[Hougigo]

Kessler wants a fight... he can probably give more money than Froch is offering with the purse percentages.
What he can do is fight Kessler and see if Froch vacates or not

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I'm not sure it would be PPV in the UK at all - in fact, i'm sure Hearn said it was hard to make because of the time difference etc and it hasn't proved massive success over the years.

Aha taking things out of context. Except for the fact that Groves isn't being offered $40 million dollars up front.

He's being offered his highest ever purse and it's much more than what he'd make in any other fight. So how is it any different? Also George Groves isn't Pacquaio...LOL. What was it you said? "Win and negotiate the rematch"

[elgu]

Groves. He had a 25% offer and turned it down, now he is whining that he gets 15%.

[FrankieBruno]

if froch drops his title who else is there to blame

at the mo its herns fault with all his many stipulations

[Dirk Diggler UK]

at the mo its herns fault with all his many stipulations

Hearn is offering him more than 15% with no options. There can't be options because Groves is the mandatory now.

[LacedUp]

He's being offered his highest ever purse and it's much more than what he'd make in any other fight. So how is it any different? Also George Groves isn't Pacquaio...LOL. What was it you said? "Win and negotiate the rematch"

No, he was being offered his highest ever purse - if he only gets 15% it will be on par with what he made in the first fight. Not impressive for the biggest fight of the year in the UK.

I said Pacquiao's value has since diminished and he can't get 40 millions against anyone else, so he should take that.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

No, he was being offered his highest ever purse - if he only gets 15% it will be on par with what he made in the first fight. Not impressive for the biggest fight of the year in the UK.

I said Pacquiao's value has since diminished and he can't get 40 millions against anyone else, so he should take that.

The rematch is worth more so 15% will be more than what he made the first time. He's been offered more than that though anyway. He can't get this kind of money anywhere else.

And 40m plus no PPV is not impressive for the biggest fight of ALL TIME

We know you have different rules for Gayemaker fighters though.

[LacedUp]

The rematch is worth more so 15% will be more than what he made the first time. He's been offered more than that though anyway. He can't get this kind of money anywhere else.

And 40m plus no PPV is not impressive for the biggest fight of ALL TIME

We know you have different rules for Gayemaker fighters though.

You can't put it that way. It didn't go to purse bids last time - he was offered a fixed sum of money. The purses doesn't work that way - he's not just given "15%".

I'm not saying it's impressive. I'm saying, what else is he going to do? He can fight a lot of guys and get 20-25 million, but he can't fight anyone other than mayweather and make 40.

You're so corny and predictable.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You can't put it that way. It didn't go to purse bids last time - he was offered a fixed sum of money. The purses doesn't work that way - he's not just given "15%".

I'm not saying it's impressive. I'm saying, what else is he going to do? He can fight a lot of guys and get 20-25 million, but he can't fight anyone other than mayweather and make 40.

You're so corny and predictable.

Hearn has offered him more as he doesn't want the fight to go to purse bids.

Groves can fight other guys and get paid *** all or he can fight Froch and become a millionaire. So why the double standard?

[LacedUp]

Hearn has offered him more as he doesn't want the fight to go to purse bids.

Groves can fight other guys and get paid *** all or he can fight Froch and become a millionaire. So why the double standard?

Yes he has, but that offer was obviously including a few options, a rematch etc. And still only 20% of the cut. Now, we both know it wasn't rejected because of the amount involved, but because Groves didn't want to be tied to matchroom.

But he can't fight Froch and become a millionaire. 15% of 5m is 750k right? And you might see it as double standards, but to me there's a difference between 40 million and 750k.