So now a fighter gets discredited for winning and a fighter gets credit for losing?

[Larry the boss]

He started at 118 and went up to fight a dominant middleweight champ. its much more impressive than fighting a guy 3 divisions from his best and prime weight class.


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So Hagler, Leonard and Hearns get no credit for their Duran wins?

[Larry the boss]

So your assertion is that moving Marquez up from 135 and winning, is more impressive than a career lightweight moving up and being very competitive with one of if not the greatest middleweight of all time?

And yes, old...

32 years old and 80 fights into a career is OLD.

yes winning over a hall of famer is more impressive then losing to another hall of famer....you get 0 credit for losing

and duran was no damn career light weight he was a 154 champ and former ww champ when he fought hagler

[jas]

i actually think larry is right on this one.

i cant think of a "special loss" to a hall of famer which is better than a win over a hall of famer.

[!! Shawn]

yes winning over a hall of famer is more impressive then losing to another hall of famer....you get 0 credit for losing

and duran was no damn career light weight he was a 154 champ and former ww champ when he fought hagler

So by your standard, Floyd would get more credit for beating ricardo lopez than Duran gets for being competitive with hagler?

[!! Shawn]

yes winning over a hall of famer is more impressive then losing to another hall of famer....you get 0 credit for losing

and duran was no damn career light weight he was a 154 champ and former ww champ when he fought hagler

Are you ******? Duran had 60+ fights at lightweight. How is that not a career lightweight?

[jas]

i actually think larry is right on this one.

i cant think of a "special loss" to a hall of famer which is better than a win over a hall of famer.

maybe frazier's loss to ali in thrilla in manilla is better than his knockout win over bob foster?

[Larry the boss]

So by your standard, Floyd would get more credit for beating ricardo lopez than Duran gets for being competitive with hagler?

why would floyd be fighting someone who fights a minimum weight??lets be realistic..if you beat a hall of famer at or around your damn weight class it is better then losing to one..since when in the hell do you get credit for losing a damn fight?? what the **** is a "special loss"???

[Larry the boss]

Are you ******? Duran had 60+ fights at lightweight. How is that not a career lightweight?

dude he left lightweight YEARS AGO..and won titles at 147 and 154..thats not a career lightweight

[jas]

i would say frazier's loss to ali in the thrilla in manilla is better than his wins over hall of famers jerry quarry and bob foster.

[ironmt]

So your assertion is that moving Marquez up from 135 and winning, is more impressive than a career lightweight moving up and being very competitive with one of if not the greatest middleweight of all time?

And yes, old...

32 years old and 80 fights into a career is OLD.

Very nice post and true. Alot of people do not seem to understand that It's not always age that makes a fighter old. The amount and type of fights plays a significant role.

I think we have all heard the expression that sometimes a fighters stock rises In defeat. This Is particularly true with fighters that have a style like Duran, Gatti, Ward ect.