Argenis Mendes looking to jump to 135 after protesting?

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  • Spray_resistant
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    #21
    Originally posted by Russian Crushin
    If Mendez has trouble making 130 and wants to move up then so what? Then try fighting him there or fight for the belt at 130. Doesnt matter
    So if this whole thing had not happened and he wasn't steamrolled by a guy he would be mandated to face again you honestly think Mendez would be on some "I'm to big to make 130 doe" claims still?

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      #22
      Originally posted by Spray_resistant
      So if this whole thing had not happened and he wasn't steamrolled by a guy he would be mandated to face again you honestly think Mendez would be on some "I'm to big to make 130 doe" claims still?
      I dont know i can go back in time, but what i do know is they can simply fight at 135

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        #23
        Originally posted by Russian Crushin
        I dont know i can go back in time, but what i do know is they can simply fight at 135
        Depends on what is more important to Barthelemy in regards to getting an official win over Mendez or winning the title but if he wants the fight and Mendez tries to worm out of it by going up to 140 its a clear duck even though that should already be established as the reason why he moved up to 135 in the first place.

        If anything I wouldn't be opposed to Barthelemy being thrown some tomato can for the vacant title he should already have anyway.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Russian Crushin
          I campaigned for a fair outcome within the rules, and Mendez got it. Yet still people are pretending like Barth got rob when he was the one that caused it.

          If Mendez feels like he cant make weight and wants to move up then fight him at 135, or stay at 130 and fight for the belt. There were rumors before the fight that mendez had a lot of trouble making weight and frankly it showed. Im down for a rematch, but if Mendez feels he cant make 130 healthy then fight him at 135. Cant have your cake and eat it too
          Can't have your cake and eat it, too? lol Please....

          You were relentless in your pursuit of "Justice for Argenis." I didn't have a problem with it. But now you're taking a very casual stance towards the rematch at 130, citing "rumors" and Mendez's "health." The twenty seven year old Argenis is done growing, and he weighed well under the junior lightweight limit for the Barthelemy fight. Maybe he screwed up his preparation, but Mendez is clearly not having trouble making weight. Both these guys have campaigned plenty at 130. Their rematch should be at that weight.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Spray_resistant
            Depends on what is more important to Barthelemy in regards to getting an official win over Mendez or winning the title but if he wants the fight and Mendez tries to worm out of it by going up to 140 its a clear duck even though that should already be established as the reason why he moved up to 135 in the first place.

            If anything I wouldn't be opposed to Barthelemy being thrown some tomato can for the vacant title he should already have anyway.
            Whats the problem if Mendez wants to fight him at 135, how exactly is that a duck?

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              #26
              Originally posted by PBP
              I think so. Regardless, what is important is getting lost in all of this which is Barthelemy still getting a shot at a title.


              Barthelemy just needs another shot at a title whether it be through Mendez or for a vacant title. And that is happening so there is really no reason for anyone to complain.
              Originally posted by Spray_resistant
              Depends on what is more important to Barthelemy in regards to getting an official win over Mendez or winning the title but if he wants the fight and Mendez tries to worm out of it by going up to 140 its a clear duck even though that should already be established as the reason why he moved up to 135 in the first place.

              If anything I wouldn't be opposed to Barthelemy being thrown some tomato can for the vacant title he should already have anyway.
              I would imagine that Barthelemy would prefer to beat a reigning champ than to win a vacant title. I know I would, especially after the controversy. Plus, at this juncture, I think Rances wants to make a point.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                Whats the problem if Mendez wants to fight him at 135, how exactly is that a duck?
                Because that is not the weight class Barthelemy competes in and its for no title so its just a random fight for no reason or purpose. A fight against Mendez only furthers Barthelemy along in his career if its for a title but yes he can fight some random guy for a belt though shouldn't have to because Mendez should not duck him by vacating and moving up.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Russian Crushin
                  Whats the problem if Mendez wants to fight him at 135, how exactly is that a duck?
                  What are you talking about? Mendez doesn't hold a title at 135. Perhaps he never will. And even if he did, who's to say he'd grant Rances a rematch? Maybe it would be Barthelemy who does better at lightweight. Maybe Rances won't move up anytime soon. The rematch has to be done now, at 130. Otherwise, yes, it's a duck.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                    Can't have your cake and eat it, too? lol Please....

                    You were relentless in your pursuit of "Justice for Argenis." I didn't have a problem with it. But now you're taking a very casual stance towards the rematch at 130, citing "rumors" and Mendez's "health." The twenty seven year old Argenis is done growing, and he weighed well under the junior lightweight limit for the Barthelemy fight. Maybe he screwed up his preparation, but Mendez is clearly not having trouble making weight. Both these guys have campaigned plenty at 130. Their rematch should be at that weight.
                    If Mendez will fight him at 135, then whats the problem? Why would he drop the 130 belt and fight him at 135 if he can make 130? Out of spite?

                    Making weight doesnt mean you made it healthy, just look at DLH in the Pac fight. If he doesnt wanna fight at 135, then he will get a shot at the belt, so i dont see what all the complaining is about. Maybe he shouldnt have fouled him and won the first fight

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                      What are you talking about? Mendez doesn't hold a title at 135. Perhaps he never will. And even if he did, who's to say he'd grant Rances a rematch? Maybe it would be Barthelemy who does better at lightweight. Maybe Rances won't move up anytime soon. The rematch has to be done now, at 130. Otherwise, yes, it's a duck.
                      So if its the title he wants, then fight for it, he is the mando after all. If mendez says no at 135, then yea its a duck

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