The Official Miguel Cotto-Sergio Martinez Master Thread

[CubanGuyNYC]

I'm willing to make a side bet that Martinez comes in at least ten pounds heavier than Cotto tomorrow night. That's a very solid ten pounds, o my brothers...a lot of weight to give up at this level. Miguel will have his hands full just making it to the final bell, never mind winning.

[DARKSEID]

all depends how aggressive Sergio is, that will determine if the fight goes 12

It's not going 12, there's no way. Sergio is too much for Cotto.

Too much of everything, and Sergio is not Gunshy, he's going to make his power felt. Also, Cotto's defense is horrible.

I don't know what the hell Cotto was on when he agreed to this fight.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Forget Elangel, ELPacman breaking this ***** down!

Power: 50/50
Speed: Martinez
Defense: 50/50
Mental: 50/50
Styles: Not sure what you mean but by styles as in, awkwardness? Martinez
Recent performances: Martinez
Size: Martinez
Whose win will be more significant: COTTO

I won't argue with anything you wrote except power. Martinez, being the faster, naturally bigger man, has more power. I don't think there's much debate in that.

[jas]

Forget Elangel, ELPacman breaking this ***** down!

Power: 50/50
Speed: Martinez
Defense: 50/50
Mental: 50/50
Styles: Not sure what you mean but by styles as in, awkwardness? Martinez
Recent performances: Martinez
Size: Martinez
Whose win will be more significant: COTTO

By styles I meant styles makes fights so who's style is better compared to the opponents style

I would say Martinez hits harder no?

And recent performances iwould go with cotto

I added boxing skill which I think defo cotto

I agree with you mostly

[jas]

I'm willing to make a side bet that Martinez comes in at least ten pounds heavier than Cotto tomorrow night. That's a very solid ten pounds, o my brothers...a lot of weight to give up at this level. Miguel will have his hands full just making it to the final bell, never mind winning.

How much was margarito vs cotto?

[mathed]

LETS GO PEOPLE! Hit me up!

Cotto applies pressure early trying to land the left to the body with wicked intentions. Martinez gets trapped on the ropes in the first and people get all excited thinking Cotto is doing damage but Martinez counters with a jab as Cotto throws a left to the head and then spins off the ropes to safety.

As the second commences, Martinez establishes distance and lands a few crisp jabs that are telling. Cotto cuts the distance again and goes to the body, landing a couple shots, again the crowd goes wild. Martinez re-establishes distance, pumps a few jabs and follows with the first flush left down the middle and it appears to stun Cotto. Immediately Cotto ceases forward movement and starts to retreat.....round ends.

Cotto is cautious in the beginning of the third and tries to impose his way with the jab. Martinez counters over the jab and Cotto tries to rush him into the ropes of the incredibly undersized ring that was built especially to fit Cotto's strengths. Again the crowd goes wild and the announces act like Cotto is dominating Martinez. Sergio again counters Cotto but with the left uppercut this time and he spins off the ropes.

In the corner between rounds, it is obvious that Cotto's confidence is waning and he appears to have swelling under his left eye from Martinez' counter jabs. The fourth begins and Cotto tries to jab his way in again but this time, Martinez leads with a straight left and tags Cotto flush and again, he appears to be hurt and begins to retreat. Sergio traps him this time and unleashes a 5 punch combination while Cotto is against the ropes and Cotto holds on as the round ends.

After the 4th, Cotto's right and left eyes are both showing substantial swelling and his nose appears to be bleeding as well. Roach is asking Cotto what happened to all the work they put in at the gym and Cotto responds, I'm good, he is tiring.

In the 5th, Cotto appears to be waiting for Martinez instead of being the aggressor. Sergio starts throwing the 1-2 in succession and tags Cotto several times as Cotto appears to go into retreat mode. The crowd is now noticeably silent for the most part. Cotto lands a solid left and the crowd goes crazy but Sergio ties up. Once broken up, Cotto attempts to crowd Sergio who sticks Cotto with a solid jab and Cotto's legs appear to give a little, he again goes into retreat mode.

After the 5th, Roach is pleading with Cotto to be more aggressive and to punish Martinez who he claims is finished. The commentator's have now jumped to Martinez' side claiming that Cotto appears to be breaking down.
Sergio has a small mark on the right side under his eye but otherwise, he is untouched.

The 6th starts and Sergio comes right at Cotto and unleashes a 7 punch combination that has Cotto reeling against the ropes. He tries to tie up but Sergio drills him with a left uppercut and Cotto takes knee. He gets up on the count of 8 and attempts to attack. There is some back and forth action and Cotto tries to work in close quarters to the body but Sergio counters Cotto with a sharp right hook as Cotto swings wide for a power hook and Cotto stumbles backwards towards the ropes. Sergio traps him and unleashes another 5 punch combination that Cotto blocks the majority of and then the bell rings.

Roach tells Cotto he is going to throw in the towel if he doesn't show him something in the next round. The 7th round starts and Cotto tries to attack but gets up-ended by Sergio's jab on several occasions. Cotto tries to throw a haymaker mostly out of frustration and Sergio catches him exposed with a straight left that drops Cotto. He gets up on the count of 8 again and Sergio immediately closes the gap to pummel him with a 10 punch combination and Roach throws in the towel to save his man further punishment.

All hail to the REAL MW king and Cotto exits stage left with no post fight interview.

[CubanGuyNYC]

all depends how aggressive Sergio is, that will determine if the fight goes 12

I like Sergio. In fact, I'm a fan. But he can be a pretty nasty guy. I don't think all that "punishment" talk was just for promotion. I think he really wants to hurt Miguel. If Martinez senses any kind of opportunity at all, he's going to go for the brutal KO.

[ELPacman]

By styles I meant styles makes fights so who's style is better compared to the opponents style

I would say Martinez hits harder no?

And recent performances iwould go with cotto

I added boxing skill which I think defo cotto

I agree with you mostly

Nay, you take away the Rodriguez win and Cotto's prior weren't that great. Lost to Mayweather and Trout. Martinez hasn't lost yet even if it wasn't his usual standards.
Also power, you guys think Martinez is some amazing power puncher. He's the bigger guy yes, but he wasn't even that HUGE of a puncher at the weight. He mostly beat guys up by his activity level. The type of hooks Cotto was throwing and hurting with Rodriguez will do damage on Martinez, no doubt. It all depends how well he can land them...

[jas]

Cotto applies pressure early trying to land the left to the body with wicked intentions. Martinez gets trapped on the ropes in the first and people get all excited thinking Cotto is doing damage but Martinez counters with a jab as Cotto throws a left to the head and then spins off the ropes to safety.

As the second commences, Martinez establishes distance and lands a few crisp jabs that are telling. Cotto cuts the distance again and goes to the body, landing a couple shots, again the crowd goes wild. Martinez re-establishes distance, pumps a few jabs and follows with the first flush left down the middle and it appears to stun Cotto. Immediately Cotto ceases forward movement and starts to retreat.....round ends.

Cotto is cautious in the beginning of the third and tries to impose his way with the jab. Martinez counters over the jab and Cotto tries to rush him into the ropes of the incredibly undersized ring that was built especially to fit Cotto's strengths. Again the crowd goes wild and the announces act like Cotto is dominating Martinez. Sergio again counters Cotto but with the left uppercut this time and he spins off the ropes.

In the corner between rounds, it is obvious that Cotto's confidence is waning and he appears to have swelling under his left eye from Martinez' counter jabs. The fourth begins and Cotto tries to jab his way in again but this time, Martinez leads with a straight left and tags Cotto flush and again, he appears to be hurt and begins to retreat. Sergio traps him this time and unleashes a 5 punch combination while Cotto is against the ropes and Cotto holds on as the round ends.

After the 4th, Cotto's right and left eyes are both showing substantial swelling and his nose appears to be bleeding as well. Roach is asking Cotto what happened to all the work they put in at the gym and Cotto responds, I'm good, he is tiring.

In the 5th, Cotto appears to be waiting for Martinez instead of being the aggressor. Sergio starts throwing the 1-2 in succession and tags Cotto several times as Cotto appears to go into retreat mode. The crowd is now noticeably silent for the most part. Cotto lands a solid left and the crowd goes crazy but Sergio ties up. Once broken up, Cotto attempts to crowd Sergio who sticks Cotto with a solid jab and Cotto's legs appear to give a little, he again goes into retreat mode.

After the 5th, Roach is pleading with Cotto to be more aggressive and to punish Martinez who he claims is finished. The commentator's have now jumped to Martinez' side claiming that Cotto appears to be breaking down.
Sergio has a small mark on the right side under his eye but otherwise, he is untouched.

The 6th starts and Sergio comes right at Cotto and unleashes a 7 punch combination that has Cotto reeling against the ropes. He tries to tie up but Sergio drills him with a left uppercut and Cotto takes knee. He gets up on the count of 8 and attempts to attack. There is some back and forth action and Cotto tries to work in close quarters to the body but Sergio counters Cotto with a sharp right hook as Cotto swings wide for a power hook and Cotto stumbles backwards towards the ropes. Sergio traps him and unleashes another 5 punch combination that Cotto blocks the majority of and then the bell rings.

Roach tells Cotto he is going to throw in the towel if he doesn't show him something in the next round. The 7th round starts and Cotto tries to attack but gets up-ended by Sergio's jab on several occasions. Cotto tries to throw a haymaker mostly out of frustration and Sergio catches him exposed with a straight left that drops Cotto. He gets up on the count of 8 again and Sergio immediately closes the gap to pummel him with a 10 punch combination and Roach throws in the towel to save his man further punishment.

All hail to the REAL MW king and Cotto exits stage left with no post fight interview.

So to summarise Sergio is gonna win because of power, counter punching and cotto's fragile skin.

[jas]

Watching Sergio vs Chavez right now and Sergio's movement isn't great.

The wear and tear on his knee was probably affecting him even back in that fight.