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  • radioraheem
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    #81
    Originally posted by toooooool
    So I guess Cus D amato and Angelo Dundee were bad trainers because
    neither one was ever a pro boxer.Joe Calzaghes father must be no good
    too because he was a musician and he trained Joe who retired undefeated.
    So according to your logic,someone who has been a pro boxer can predict
    who will win a boxing match 100% of the time more than someone who
    only watches boxing?
    Behind the scenes, a lot of them learned the trade through other trainers who actually used to do it. They didn't become trainers by watching videos and/or all on their own. They were actually in the gym. Then there's other trainers helping too, but it goes unsaid / uncredited.

    A pro boxer will be able to predict a boxing match more than those who only watch. Yes. But 100% of the time? No, that right there is impossible. But what's more telling is not what they predict, but what they say that happens during fight, and what they say happened after the fight. What they think about the abilities and/or skill of each fighter, etc. Those things.

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    • toooooool
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      #82
      Originally posted by radioraheem
      Behind the scenes, a lot of them learned the trade through other trainers who actually used to do it. They didn't become trainers by watching videos and/or all on their own. They were actually in the gym. Then there's other trainers helping too, but it goes unsaid / uncredited.

      A pro boxer will be able to predict a boxing match more than those who only watch. Yes. But 100% of the time? No, that right there is impossible. But what's more telling is not what they predict, but what they say that happens during fight, and what they say happened after the fight. What they think about the abilities and/or skill of each fighter, etc. Those things.
      Wow..it's good to hear a proper intelligent answer.

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      • ADP02
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        #83
        Originally posted by radioraheem
        He is right, many of them don't know anything when it comes to his profession.

        Anyone can analyze and give an opinion. But you must realize that because you have no prior experience, your analytical take will easily be flawed. There is just so much that you do not know and will never know because you never did it.

        Today's technology is meaningless because all it does is give you more access to watch, rather than to actually do. Watching only helps when you're actually doing it at the same time. Not watching and doing nothing -- that's just lots of wasted time.
        Floyd was wrong because he made conflicting statements then used it as an excuse. Just like some do over here.

        If only those who have put on gloves can make an educated analysis/opinion on this site then you will be having a lot fewer posts on this site. So again, YOU DON'T need to be Floyd to understand the game. Lot's of good trainers can be used as an example. You will get good and bad posts here. That comment is just an excuse if it's painting everyone with the same brush.

        If you read a good analysis on this site, it doesn't mean it came from a great boxer. On the other hand, there are some talented boxers and some not so talented, who have you scratching your head by the comment they made in their interviews.

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        • Calabis
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          #84
          Originally posted by toooooool
          The secret to beating Mayweather and other fast,slick boxers is to break
          their rhythm .Any pro at that level can win if they stick to that game plan
          from start to finish.The classic mistake is to box a boxer,or even try to
          brawl a boxer.When the bell rings,a fighter has to constantly walk fast at
          the boxer(and cut him off)and never stop throwing medium power punches
          from start to finish.This is a boxers worst nightmare because boxers like to
          fight in spurts.Actually turn the match into a glorified sparring session.In
          a sense,the boxer gets smothered.Boxers are like Cobras, and that they like
          to strike,and then regroup, but the mongoose smothers the cobras rhythm.
          Someone send this out to all trainers.....40+ fighters were to late to gain this key to victory

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          • radioraheem
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            #85
            Originally posted by ADP02
            Floyd was wrong because he made conflicting statements then used it as an excuse. Just like some do over here.

            If only those who have put on gloves can make an educated analysis/opinion on this site then you will be having a lot fewer posts on this site. So again, YOU DON'T need to be Floyd to understand the game. Lot's of good trainers can be used as an example. You will get good and bad posts here. That comment is just an excuse if it's painting everyone with the same brush.

            If you read a good analysis on this site, it doesn't mean it came from a great boxer. On the other hand, there are some talented boxers and some not so talented, who have you scratching your head by the comment they made in their interviews.

            Educated analysis comes from those who are actually educated about that profession, as in they actually do it or did it. An educated analysis is more or less a professional analysis.

            What goes on in the forum is generally an amateur analysis. Because it is usually nothing more than amateur opinions, and that's just to be friendly about it. If you get an amateur opinion from anything in life, you know by default to take that opinion with a grain of salt. If you want a serious opinion that really holds weight, you will seek the advice of a professional unless you're a fool.

            Everyone has to a right to have an opinion, even the woman this morning that told me and my boy that she is rooting for the Giants in today's Superbowl.

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            • toooooool
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              #86
              Originally posted by Calabis
              Someone send this out to all trainers.....40+ fighters were to late to gain this key to victory
              Right!...40 plus fighters and not one of them implored this tactic!

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              • Spray_resistant
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                #87
                The fighter to beat him needs the speed and reflexes to keep up with Floyd's, someone who applies pressure and has a busy workrated all while at the same time being defensively responsible enough to not be tagged so cleanly by him dropping rounds and taking damage.

                Its hard to find that in one fighter but Floyd isn't unbeatable his only noticeable weakness is that many times he is too defensive and has a low out but if someone can find a way to take advantage of that responsibly not just lumbering forward getting potshotted they may have a chance./

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                • Humean
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                  #88
                  As has already been said by others the defining characteristic of Mayweather's style is his lack of rhythm, he is probably the most accomplished reactive fighter in history.

                  Besides being as talented as him, or just plain bigger, the only chance anyone might have to get the better of him would be to get him to fight outside his own backyard (which is not happening) which might take away some of the more illegal tactics (elbow, forearm,) he uses to gain advantages. Also it is worth trying hard to cut him early with a headbutt.

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                  • ADP02
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by radioraheem
                    Educated analysis comes from those who are actually educated about that profession, as in they actually do it or did it. An educated analysis is more or less a professional analysis.

                    What goes on in the forum is generally an amateur analysis. Because it is usually nothing more than amateur opinions, and that's just to be friendly about it. If you get an amateur opinion from anything in life, you know by default to take that opinion with a grain of salt. If you want a serious opinion that really holds weight, you will seek the advice of a professional unless you're a fool.

                    Everyone has to a right to have an opinion, even the woman this morning that told me and my boy that she is rooting for the Giants in today's Superbowl.
                    Funny stuff (Giants)

                    but again an analysis can be brought up in a very thoughtful manner and accurate manner by people who visit these boards and yes, even those that have not put a glove on in their lives. To saw that is not possible or to stroke everyone in the same brush is wrong.

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                    • dynomyte1444
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                      #90
                      you cant beat a prime floyd. floyds not even in his prime and is still whoopin peoples ass

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