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  • Jsmooth9876
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    #51
    Originally posted by LADIV
    im not saying he will refuse to fight pac if he gets the belt they are not there yet, but lets be honest here if marquez was the one knocked out, would there be even talks of a fifth fight, and the answer is no they both said that this was for all the marbles the last fight between them, so why can everybody accept that.
    I think if Manny beats Tim in April then Marquez will fight Manny again for that 147 title. The money would be huge and style wise he's Manny kryptonite... but, he's gonna have to do VADA testing lol.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #52
      Originally posted by Evol
      so say tim leaves top rank, gbp made him a good offer, now their gonna just throw him in with floyd??? and if he lose then what? how is that suppose to increase bradley's profile?? it sure didnt work for guerrero, ortiz, etc.?? they will make him fight a couple times maybe put him on floyd's undercard, get his name out there first but the thing with doing this is tim could possibly lose while doing so.
      AGain, neither of those guys would be coming to gbp as undefeated ww champs with ppv wins over JMM and manny. Niether was the 3rd or 4th best fighter in the world.

      Your argument doesn't make any sense. tim's value should he beat manny is as floyd's ppv opponent. His profile would at its max for the moment. A win over thurman on floyd's undercad wont briong more noteriety than beating manny or JMM. SO you do the fight first.

      How that fight plays out could help boost Tim's profile. No, there is no guarantee. But if he looks good or wins, then he can headline with the othe guys.

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      • Evol
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        #53
        Originally posted by LADIV
        im not saying he will refuse to fight pac if he gets the belt they are not there yet, but lets be honest here if marquez was the one knocked out, would there be even talks of a fifth fight, and the answer is no they both said that this was for all the marbles the last fight between them, so why can everybody accept that.
        knowing manny there'll prolly be a 5th fight and u know it too.. see if pac vs marquez only happen once and marquez knocks pac out then i can see why he doesnt wanna give pac a rematch but they fought 4 times and pac gave him rematch after rematch. pac could have said im fine with the decision but instead he wanted to prove himself and everyone that he was the better one but it didnt go his way lol.

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        • WilkinsOlajuwon
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          #54
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          You dont know this. all we know is todd and tim's wife negotiated the deal. Maybe todd convinced her this would happen.
          Well if we are talking about things we dont know...we dont know what was said in any meeting or who actually made the decisions...so you insinuating debouf was being slick is...well you see where i am going.

          We do know that Floyd fights only twice a year. We do know that there are other fighters than Bradley he could fight (most of them for more money and some above 147). We know Bradley isnt a sell. We know GB can only put on so many PPVs a year.

          I dont think team TB needed any help when determining how probable a Floyd fight would be.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
            By the time his next fight comes he could be coming off a loss and they all could be coming off a win anyways.
            He was signed for 2 more fights anyways so he would have been facing Manny and probably Marquez or Provo again regardless. They were all close fights and he could have 2 losses by years end and then none of this matters. If he wins these next 2, then that's where it would seem as if he boxed himself into a terrible future.
            Top Rank's got some young fighters from 135-147 that may be in the welterweight picture by 2016. Mikey, Mayfield, Vargas, Khabib, Verdejo, Benevidez, etc.

            In the meantime he has Pac, Provodnikov, Rios, Alvarado, Marquez and maybe even Kell Brook to keep him busy for the next 2 years.

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            • SthPaw
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              #56
              Its a good job he's open to it coz its more than likely what he will get

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #57
                Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon
                Well if we are talking about things we dont know...we dont know what was said in any meeting or who actually made the decisions...so you insinuating debouf was being slick is...well you see where i am going.

                We do know that Floyd fights only twice a year. We do know that there are other fighters than Bradley he could fight (most of them for more money and some above 147). We know Bradley isnt a sell. We know GB can only put on so many PPVs a year.

                I dont think team TB needed any help when determining how probable a Floyd fight would be.
                I think its problematic that this deal was negotiated with tim's wife. I think a manager with more experience would have better protected tim's interests both long and short term.

                Yes we know all that. we also know that there are no higher ranked undefeated ww's.

                The probability of a floyd fight doesn't seem in any way to have factored into this decision, especially since he said a few weeks ago he wasn't interested in fighting floyd and it doesn't appear he talked with anyone else since he is under contract with TR.

                Look, we agree about his decision. But the floyd fight didn't seem to factor in this in any way. There is no one he appears to have talked to who could articulate the likelihood.

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                • Evol
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  AGain, neither of those guys would be coming to gbp as undefeated ww champs with ppv wins over JMM and manny. Niether was the 3rd or 4th best fighter in the world.

                  Your argument doesn't make any sense. tim's value should he beat manny is as floyd's ppv opponent. His profile would at its max for the moment. A win over thurman on floyd's undercad wont briong more noteriety than beating manny or JMM. SO you do the fight first.

                  How that fight plays out could help boost Tim's profile. No, there is no guarantee. But if he looks good or wins, then he can headline with the othe guys.
                  what im saying is that why would gbp throw tim with floyd right away? how is that suppose to increase tim's stock or anything?? i dont get it. u make it seem like gbp is hurting bad right now and they need to make a super fight right away or something. why would they invest all that money into tim only to force him in with floyd right away when they can build him up first make whatever off that then make the floyd fight. i dont know but to me building tim first then make the floyd fight will increase his status more than to throw him in with floyd and have him come out on the losing end.

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                  • LADIV
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by jsmooth9876
                    i think if manny beats tim in april then marquez will fight manny again for that 147 title. The money would be huge and style wise he's manny kryptonite... But, he's gonna have to do vada testing lol.
                    this is the thing that pisses me off about manny he got ktfo by marquez,they both took the same test and passed before and after the fight.but since he got stretched all of a sudden he is a f uking cruzader for performance drug testing..
                    Hypocrite much pacquiao ?????

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Evol
                      what im saying is that why would gbp throw tim with floyd right away? how is that suppose to increase tim's stock or anything?? i dont get it. u make it seem like gbp is hurting bad right now and they need to make a super fight right away or something. why would they invest all that money into tim only to force him in with floyd right away when they can build him up first make whatever off that then make the floyd fight. i dont know but to me building tim first then make the floyd fight will increase his status more than to throw him in with floyd and have him come out on the losing end.
                      because he would have just beaten manny again and would have ppv wins over manny and jmm in succession. His profile will be as high as it can go up to that point. They won't need to build him up anymore. can't you undestand that?

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