Comments Thread For: Groves Loses Appeal, IBF Stands By 85-15 Split For Froch

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Why bother with a sanctioning body at all? Why not give them back their silly belt. Carl and George are the performers; the promoter must have their cut as their's is venture capital, but Carl and George would be making money for the sanctioning body at no benefit to them. I suggest Carl and George and the promotion company tell the sanctioning leaches to go suck someone else's...

You need to be a little more realistic

[techliam]

You may be right. I think the rematch clause was put in because Bute agreed to travel to the UK.

But mandatories aren't obligated to give rematches. For example, Kell Brook turned down Bradley because he'd have to sign a rematch clause/options whereas he became mandatory to Alexander where there would have been no rematch clause.

Yes it's pretty much just negotiations and leverages...if a champion can put in a rematch clause he will, challengers often accept because they might gain something else from it. Not sure exactly on the Bradley and Alexander situations myself

The benefit for Groves for the rematch clause is the extra money he'd be getting, but he has turned that down

[uncommon]

When Carl fought Mikkel who cared or even thought about who held what imaginary "title"? No.

When Marcos and Adrien fought did anyone care or even know if a "title" was being fought for? No.

If Adonis and Sergey ever fight, will anyone care or even think much about the "titles" that may be won or lost? No.

I like something Tyson Fury recently said: "I don't care about titles, titles are bull****, I only want to fight for money."

[Dirk Diggler UK]

When Carl fought Mikkel who cared or even thought about who held what imaginary "title"? No.

When Marcos and Adrien fought did anyone care or even know if a "title" was being fought for? No.

If Adonis and Sergey ever fight, will anyone care or even think much about the "titles" that may be won or lost? No.

I like something Tyson Fury recently said: "I don't care about titles, titles are bull****, I only want to fight for money."

Back to life, back to reality.

[LacedUp]

When Carl fought Mikkel who cared or even thought about who held what imaginary "title"? No.

When Marcos and Adrien fought did anyone care or even know if a "title" was being fought for? No.

If Adonis and Sergey ever fight, will anyone care or even think much about the "titles" that may be won or lost? No.

I like something Tyson Fury recently said: "I don't care about titles, titles are bull****, I only want to fight for money."

I'm pretty sure they all cared.

[uncommon]

You need to be a little more realistic

To "sanction" means to "approve". Why should these men, who are putting their health at risk for other's entertainment, seek the "approval" of something called the "IBF"? These sanctioning bodies did not always exist. I fail to understand their necessity.

[LacedUp]

To "sanction" means to "approve". Why should these men, who are putting their health at risk for other's entertainment, seek the "approval" of something called the "IBF"? These sanctioning bodies did not always exist. I fail to understand their necessity.

Do you know the history of the great fighters that held the IBF title?

[uncommon]

You need to be a little more realistic

Do you know the history of the great fighters that held the IBF title?

I do not understand the relevance? I do know that many cards take place without any "sanctioning". I am suggesting the reputations of Carl and George are vast enough that the selling of this fight would succeed without any "IBF" interference. Actually, I doubt this so-called "title" would add anything at all to the promotion of this event.

[thack]

I'm with Groves here...he's putting his health on the line here too, dont you think a 85/15 split, in a high profile UK fight is a little ridiculous?!

Some one here with sense ,among a mountain of blind fools...85/15 is silly after the ref in almost everyone's opinion (even Froch's, be it '2 or 3 seconds too soon')stopped it too soon. A fair split for this really huge pot would surely be around the 65/35 mark in Froch's favour ?...and let Groves decide his own future with no silly ties.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I do not understand the relevance? I do know that many cards take place without any "sanctioning". I am suggesting the reputations of Carl and George are vast enough that the selling of this fight would succeed without any "IBF" interference. Actually, I doubt this so-called "title" would add anything at all to the promotion of this event.

So Froch should give up his belt and 85% of the money just to appease George Groves?

And George Groves should not fight for a world title just to appease you?

Living in a fantasy world. All fans would love it if there was just one champion in every division. It's not going to happen though, is it? Titles are more than just belts. They are leverage.