I'm impressed with Pacquiao

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  • hugh grant
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    #21
    Originally posted by T18Z
    Nah, he hasn't; 8 division champion, first 3 of his division wins he was a major underdog, defeated the 3 mexican legends, Barrera p4p n.2 etc. Mayweathers resume and accomplishments ain't got anything on Pacquaio's.

    Mostly everything else I agree with.
    True pac has achieved more.
    To really know how good Pac is, he actually beat Bradley very convincincly nobody has beat Bradley,let alone as convincingly as Pac. To really appreciate how great Pac is, you have to take into very careful consideration just how comfortably he beat Bradley.

    Until Floyd beats Bradley as comfortably as Pac did, Pac is still no1 in my eyes.

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    • MRCHOKEaMF
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      #22
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      True pac has achieved more.
      To really know how good Pac is, he actually beat Bradley very convincincly nobody has beat Bradley,let alone as convincingly as Pac. To really appreciate how great Pac is, you have to take into very careful consideration just how comfortably he beat Bradley.

      Until Floyd beats Bradley as comfortably as Pac did, Pac is still no1 in my eyes.
      Not a good comparison because of triangle theories, you will get hit with how easy Floyd beat JMM and the fact that in all of their fights Pac never beat JMM with the ease Floyd beat JMM. Triangle theories are never good in comparing fighters.

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        #23
        Originally posted by JoeMan
        Money Mayweather had 10 fights for the last seven years
        while Pacman had 17. A difference of seven fights.
        That's like three bullets for Pacman, while one bullet for
        Money Mayweather in a Russian roulette. Of course, the
        guy who took more risks had more chances of losing.
        What do you expect? I would agree with that if Money
        Mayweather fought those missing seven fights and won them.
        Nah. The guy is an established duck.
        Mayweather has had 6 fights in the past calendar 6 years, which includes 2 in the past year. Up to last May 2013, when he fought Guerrero, he'd had FOUR fights in the past nearly 6 years.

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          #24
          Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer
          I know a lot of people think having an 0 in your loss column is the greatest thing, as well as earning north of $20m for each fight. It's an accomplishment alright although bordering on the fringes of legacy talk.

          On the other hand, 8 championships in 8 divisions, skipping 2 divisions along the way. Taking only on the toughest mofos in boxing, and the list of opponents littered with future HOFs. That is true accomplishment.
          If I could choose, I'd have Pacquiao's resume and Floyd's pay checks lol

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            #25
            Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF
            would it be legit for Ward and Stevenson to fight for a vacant Heavyweight title? while neither was really a Heavyweight? I'm curious, would you guys consider that to be legit?
            Definitely not legit, No, but Margarito at least had one fight at jmw.

            Ward needs to move his ass up to light heavy already. He's done everything that needed to be done at 168.

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              #26
              Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF
              Not a good comparison because of triangle theories, you will get hit with how easy Floyd beat JMM and the fact that in all of their fights Pac never beat JMM with the ease Floyd beat JMM. Triangle theories are never good in comparing fighters.
              You also have to consider that when Marquez fought Mayweather he was coming up from 135 and as flabby as Kirk Johnson was against Klitschko.

              Also he'd just come up from 130 lbs the previous year, and as the "icing on top" Mayweather a solid welterweight, (always saying he could easily make lightweight) was 2 lbs over the agreed weight...... Sooo... as usual, he had several major advantages.

              And..... Marquez went straight back DOWN to lightweight, showing that he's only allowed the flab so as to try to make himself WEIGH IN as a legit welterweight-which he certainly was NOT. He didn't become a welterweight until about 2 years AFTER the Mayweather fight.
              Last edited by edgarg; 01-29-2014, 06:54 PM. Reason: typo

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                #27
                Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF
                would it be legit for Ward and Stevenson to fight for a vacant Heavyweight title? while neither was really a Heavyweight? I'm curious, would you guys consider that to be legit?
                Come on man. We all know is not legit but belt is a belt. Give him some slack. Pac fight at light middleweight was his 10 weight divisions if he didn't skip 2 weight class. Imagine if he didn't skip in those 2 weight divisions and grabbed another belt each one. Fighting at light middleweight that's alone was already a big accomplishment from a guy who started from 106.
                Last edited by straightleft; 01-29-2014, 07:12 PM.

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                  #28
                  Can't wait for the Bradley rematch it's a great fight for both and redemption for either.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by El Angel
                    Is everyone just ignoring "united decision"?
                    Unanimous States of America..

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                    • GOD-FR33
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                      #30
                      Think about this.

                      You failed to mention that when Marquez fought Floyd, he didn't have the "X" factor in AH as of yet either. He hit Floyd with a couple of well-timed, crunching right hands in their fight. Image if AH's version of Marquez had hit Floyd with those same shots, he would've definitely gone down. That's what these casual fans don't understand; the science of boxing. How does a guy his age, gain a significant strength advantage over a fighter who's always been physically stronger than him? It wasn't just Juan's timing like people think. The first knock down should've told REAL fans that something wasn't quite right. Anyway, carry on. LoL.

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