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  • hitking
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    #221
    Originally posted by weebler i
    where did he say that? He didn't, it's always the same vague choice of words when ward's asked about golovkin. It's never "i want that fight", it's always "down the line" or "go ask them" or in this case "i got no problem fighting xyz".

    Basically he just wants to say he's not ducking, but he has never actively pursued the fight himself.
    Originally posted by weebler i
    if it was just a ploy, why did his promoter make offers to 168lb fighters?
    ok.............

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    • Weebler I
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      #222
      Originally posted by BoxingSmarts24
      If that is the case why aren't they trying to make offers to Ward to see if he is scared or not?
      HBO told them not to. Loeffler said HBO did not want that bout yet during the Macklin post-fight conference. Ward was running around saying the same thing.

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      • Hougigo
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        #223
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        I always thought the "154-168" was a front anyway.

        There's no way he's healthily making 154 and I don't think he's keen on 168.
        half and half.
        They did it to get attention, but they did try to make fight with the mid-level guys

        He starts training camp under the SMW limit. The last two camps he's started at 167 and 168 going into it

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        • hitking
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          #224
          Originally posted by MDPopescu
          There's no symmetry here: Golovkin still has noticeable opponents at 160.

          Ward has Groves and hypothetically Chavez Jr. (who never fought in the division and he's busy right now). Froch, Shtiglitz or Kessler are almost retired by now.

          I repeat: who is Ward fighting next?
          I thought everybody at 60 was scared to fight GGG. You can't have it both ways homie. Outta one side of your neck you can't say "GGG has multiple options at 60." And outta the other say "he isn't fighting anyone because none of the top guys in his division will fight him." Can't have it both ways. Being "ducked" isn't an excuse to fight stiffss unless you're a heavyweight.

          BTW, whomever Ward fights next will be better than this bum GGG is about to fight. I'm about as hardcore as a fight fan can be and I draw a black on who this boy is. Inexcuseable.

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #225
            Originally posted by hougigo
            half and half.
            They did it to get attention, but they did try to make fight with the mid-level guys

            He starts training camp under the SMW limit. The last two camps he's started at 167 and 168 going into it
            I thought he'd been 170 on fight night a few times.

            I've read somewhere he starts camp higher than that.

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            • Weebler I
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              #226
              Originally posted by hougigo
              half and half.
              They did it to get attention, but they did try to make fight with the mid-level guys

              He starts training camp under the SMW limit. The last two camps he's started at 167 and 168 going into it
              Sanchez went on record saying they were willing to do the Hopkins fight and Loeffler said they were willing to do Kovalev at 175 last October. They didn't sound like they were bluffing, but I'm glad they didn't make those fights.

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              • MDPopescu
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                #227
                Originally posted by hitking
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                BTW, whomever Ward fights next will be better than this bum GGG is about to fight. I'm about as hardcore as a fight fan can be and I draw a black on who this boy is. Inexcuseable.
                In short: Ward is fighting who, more precisely?

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                • Kagami Taiga
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                  #228
                  golovkin and his team have no interest in 168 rite now. should have never said they did. as far as 154, i dunno how that works. for all intents and purposes they are staying at 160 come hell and high water it seems.

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                  • hitking
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                    #229
                    Originally posted by MDPopescu
                    In short: Ward is fighting who, more precisely?
                    How the f.uck am I supposed to know? I'm not a member of his management team.

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                    • SUBZER0ED
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                      #230
                      Golovkin and Ward are both very good fighters who have put on good shows, BUT...neither of them has truly broken into the realm of superstardom yet. They are both on the cusp of making it big, but they have to beat the big draws or fight each other. The biggest names that Ward has beaten to date are Froch, who hardly ever leaves England and Dawson, who moved down in weight & whom old man Hopkins softened up. The big names that Golovkin beat are Macklin, who hasn't been able to win the most recognized belts and Stevens, who talked his way into a shot largely based on his past. So if Golovkin and Ward want to convince people that they are each superstars and big PPV draws, they need to do less talking and more big-name fighting.

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