Comments Thread For: Andre Ward is Ready, Says Gennady Golovkin is Not

[The Big Dunn]

It's clear HBO haven't wanted the two of them to fight but to protect who?

Golovkin was hardly a known draw for them when they put the word out, Ward was supposed to be their replacement for Mayweather.

HBO is investing less into boxing. GGG gets huge **** for the buck, especially if he keeps winning. GGG gets the same ratings for $600k that guys getting well over $1 mil get. SO HBO clearly doesn't want to jeopardize this by putting GGG in with someone who can beat him-especially given their main fighter saw a huge drop in sales/ratings (the next week) after the JMM ko.

[BoxingSmarts24]

Thanks for the help...
But there's no need in this case -- when someone starts swearing it means he's short of arguments... The rest is poetry...

I called you a nuthugger... And you couldn't debunk none of my claims! GGG said he was willing to fight: Canelo, Floyd, Froch, Chavez jr, Sergio, and Murray people who fight from 154-168!

AM I LYING ABOUT THAT?

GGG wants NO parts of Ward period. His team already said they weren't ready for Ward... Matter fact here is the link the shut you the hell up

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f53...t-2608579/Ward telling GGG to call him out

And here is another one from THIS site in which GGG says he is not ready to fight Ward!

http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkin-like-face-andre-ward-not-now--73235

Good luck spinning this HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[MDPopescu]

Ward (on Golovkin, the Ring interview on January 26, 2014): "... If he continues to win and if I continue to win, in a year from now is a bigger fight..."

Then what did he say?

As usual, the actual issue is "who is Ward fighting next"?

Chavez is busy with Vera...

Then Groves?

... And who else? Goossen?

Ward's fans must have an answer whatsoever...

[hitking]

He young doe

Ironically, GGG is older than Ward. So I don't see where his "down the road" stance makes a lotta sense if he truly wants a Ward fight.

[BoxingSmarts24]

So did Ward take him up on his offer?

HBO are backing Golovkin now, he doesn't need to fight outside his preferred weight class.



Stop saying this. Ward is not calling him out, and has never called him out. Ward doesn't want the fight, and never has.

I already said about the FMJ stuff, there are other threads where you can discuss the little man, this is a Golovkin/Ward thread.

So you can't answer the question about Floyd knocking out your idol huh?

And to shut you up here is Ward accepting the GGG "supposed" challenge!


http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f53...e-out-2608579/

OH AIGHT

[hitking]

HBO is investing less into boxing. GGG gets huge **** for the buck, especially if he keeps winning. GGG gets the same ratings for $600k that guys getting well over $1 mil get. SO HBO clearly doesn't want to jeopardize this by putting GGG in with someone who can beat him-especially given their main fighter saw a huge drop in sales/ratings (the next week) after the JMM ko.

How much longer can GGG continue his bum-if-the-month campaign? I suspect that a lotta GGG's fanbase are P@ct@rdish and would be perfectly content seeing him beat up bums and claiming everybody is scared of him. But eventually, he's gonna have to step it up.

[Hougigo]

I thought Golovkin was "154-168".

I don't really follow him to be honest, how long has he been exclusive to 160?

They tried to make 168 fights in the past, although they never panned out.
Two names they tried were Tommy gun and E-Rod

He became 160 exclusive like halfway or a little further through 2013.
They have HBO backing them heavily by then and knew they could get a ton of money from them now.

Loeffler talked about it in a press conference with GGG and Mike Perez. Said they had to make concessions to other fighters to get a fight made (small purses and opponents having almost the same size).

[Weebler I]

It's not but like I said Golovkin is the kind of fight he'd be up for I'd imagine, not much risk and a lot of reward aswell as being able to stay away from 175.

It sure doesn't sound like it when he's asked. He's just offered Groves a fight in his backyard, when has he ever said something like that to Golovkin?

Surely not.

Did they actually say this or are you just presuming?

I've seen it said numerous times:

To understand how each party got to this point, a quick history lesson. When the current president of HBO Sports, Ken Hershman, came over from Showtime in the beginning of 2012, one of his first big moves was to bring Ward with him. It was Hershman who came up with "The Super Six" tournament: an ambitious round-robin scrum involving a half-dozen of the best 168-pounders in the world that was designed to crown a clear-cut king in the division. Ward ended up coming out on top, defeating the respected Carl Froch more than two years after the tournament began. You could argue that it was Hershman's brainchild that boosted Ward from a developing prospect to the premiere super middleweight on the planet.

It was believed that a star was born. And better than that, a star who was American, an Olympic gold medalist and a family man. Yes, boxing is an international sport (it is perhaps the one sport which really has 'world champions') but HBO is an American entity and they believed that this native of Oakland could be the modern day Roy Jones and soon, take over the mantle from the likes of Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao as the face of the sport.
Quickly, HBO (and Hershman) went all in with Ward.

HBO is investing less into boxing. GGG gets huge **** for the buck, especially if he keeps winning. GGG gets the same ratings for $600k that guys getting well over $1 mil get. SO HBO clearly doesn't want to jeopardize this by putting GGG in with someone who can beat him-especially given their main fighter saw a huge drop in sales/ratings (the next week) after the JMM ko.

Possibly now, but HBO said early doors they didn't want this fight. You can't tell me they were protecting the unheralded Kazakh who was no draw back then.

[MDPopescu]

To sum up a little, from this thread:

As long as Golovkin is not taking the Ward fight next, Ward feels free to sit back (as usual) while waiting for Pavlik's comeback... Right?

[BoxingSmarts24]

How much longer can GGG continue his bum-if-the-month campaign? I suspect that a lotta GGG's fanbase are P@ct@rdish and would be perfectly content seeing him beat up bums and claiming everybody is scared of him. But eventually, he's gonna have to step it up.

Exactly! I actually think GGG is a good fighter. But his fans are similar to Lucas, and Pac they think everybody is scared of them. But when they lose its an excuse. Marquez and Garcia shut A LOT of those fans up. Next Ward would def put an end to this GGG nuthugging.

If there was not so much double standards I would say it is cool for GGG to stay at 160. The fact that he said he would fight anybody from 154-168 he did that to himself. And if Floyd doesn't fight him at 154 he is scared?

But GGG gets a pass from fighting Ward at 168? But I shut a lot of them dudes down and I see they are on damage control to the max right now