Manny Pacquiao Vs Timothy Bradley 2 & Undercards Master Discussion Thread

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  • ColdBlooded
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    #101
    The last time Bradley stopped an opponent was a 40 year old Joel Casamayor. He isn't stopping somebody with as good a chin as Pacquiao.

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    • hectari
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      #102
      Originally posted by ColdBlooded
      The last time Bradley stopped an opponent was a 40 year old Joel Casamayor. He isn't stopping somebody with as good a chin as Pacquiao.
      seriously? Are you living under a rock? Pac was knocked out cold by Marquez who couldn't even hurt Bradley.

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        #103
        Originally posted by hectari
        seriously? Are you living under a rock? Pac was knocked out cold by Marquez who couldn't even hurt Bradley.
        He took the best shots of guys like Cotto, Rios, and Margarito, who all hit harder than Bradley. Marquez trained specifically for power for his 4th fight with Pacquiao. He was hitting hard in that fight.

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        • jas
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          #104
          Originally posted by hectari
          seriously? Are you living under a rock? Pac was knocked out cold by Marquez who couldn't even hurt Bradley.
          and marquez takes a unique blend of power pellets and urine.

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          • IMDAZED
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            #105
            Originally posted by ColdBlooded
            He took the best shots of guys like Cotto, Rios, and Margarito, who all hit harder than Bradley. Marquez trained specifically for power for his 4th fight with Pacquiao. He was hitting hard in that fight.
            That's a solid analysis. Marquez definitely trained for power. He knew it was risky but also his only shot at history. Kudos to that man.

            Bradley doesn't hit as hard but he can rock you if you aren't careful. Marquez has an excellent chin and recuperative powers so Bradley not being able to do more damage didn't surprise me, neither did Floyd Mayweather and he did everything short of tag-teaming with 50. Yet Bradley stunned Marquez a couple times and he lumped up Provodnikov something serious. I lean toward Bradley because not only is he capable of outboxing Manny, but with his quicks and footwork, he can hold his own when they exchange even though that will be very, very dangerous for him.

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            • ColdBlooded
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              #106
              I don't think Bradley can outbox Pacquiao. He showed very little ability to get by Pacquiao's defense in the first fight. Bradley cannot just throw a million jabs and hope judges think he is outboxing Pacquiao.

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                #107
                Originally posted by ColdBlooded
                I don't think Bradley can outbox Pacquiao. He showed very little ability to get by Pacquiao's defense in the first fight. Bradley cannot just throw a million jabs and hope judges think he is outboxing Pacquiao.
                Yeah, Bradley wasn't able to penetrate Pacquiao's guard consistently and looked sloppy at times. Part of that was big stage tightness and the other part was Pacquiao's surprisingly solid defense. What gets overlooked is that Pacquiao landed little himself and the so-called "big lefts" Lampley was screaming about oft-times didn't land and when they did, they didn't weren't "big" at all. They were just regular landed punches that had as much effect as Bradley's landed shots. And in the latter part of the fight, Bradley appeared to have found his range and was leading and countering effectively. So I think he's capable. Will Pacquiao be able to seriously hurt him? We'll see.

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                • ColdBlooded
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                  #108
                  While the later rounds were closer, I still think Pacquiao was landing the cleaner, harder shots. And the greater quantity too. Plus Pacquiao will supposedly show up in better condition this time. It was pretty clear last time that Pacquiao was not in optimal shape. One thing Pacquiao could take advantage of is if Bradley tries to counter him. Pacquiao could feint him out of position and then hit him, like he did to Marquez in the 4th fight.

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                  • KRITKL
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by ColdBlooded
                    While the later rounds were closer, I still think Pacquiao was landing the cleaner, harder shots. And the greater quantity too. Plus Pacquiao will supposedly show up in better condition this time. It was pretty clear last time that Pacquiao was not in optimal shape. One thing Pacquiao could take advantage of is if Bradley tries to counter him. Pacquiao could feint him out of position and then hit him, like he did to Marquez in the 4th fight.
                    I agree Pac seemed like he was on cruise control, don't think he'll make the same mistake this time. That feint got a KD on Mosley also.
                    I was watching Bradley -JMM(which was a close fight)and I think Pac has a chance to catch Bradley jumping in. With Bradley talking about his power again and wanting to at least get a KD his aggression and confidence might get him in trouble. His heart always causes him to always try to answer back when he gets hit and Pac is going to touch him. If Pac can take a little step back after landing something clean I can see Bradley running into a counter. We'll see should be a great fight, both guys really don't want to lose.

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                    • JOM'S
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                      #110
                      it is known that Pac is easy enough to hit, but their is no one out there that could hit Pac as well as Marquez and as good as he is, it took Marquez 42 Rounds before he could land that big punch, I dont see Tim doing that within 24 rounds...

                      although I think this fight will end as a decision, If there will be a knockout it is Pac who would throw a bit down for a late rounds KO/TKO...

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