why is pacquaio ranked top 5 @ ww and he hasnt had a good win in so long?
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He beat Bradley, arguably top 3-4 P4P in all of boxing. Lost to Marquez, top 5 P4P..besides Rios, who has he fought that wasn't a top ranked guy in his weight class? Would wins over Ortiz and Guerrero have made you happy? They beat nobody but Berto at welterweight and he was a raided up over hyped punching bag.
If he actually fights a ranked welterweight not named Bradley or Marquez would more than please me.
Real rankings are who beat who and what have you done lately
Marquez was not ranked until he beat Pacquiao, nor was Bradley who. Got a gift....Bradley beat provodnikov who is not a ranked
ww and a 1 win 3 loss Marquez at ww.
It's been a long time since he beat ww not coming a big loss....Mosley
clottey were top ten but had losses in their last fight or right before thatComment
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I disagree with JMM but yes Bradley is far better. JMM isn't a good welter...period. Who has he beaten to prove that? Pac someone he fought 3 times and had experience with. I'd pick Maidana (sadly), Thurman, Floyd, Pac, Bradley all over him if they were to fight in some cases ... again. Maybe even Garcia moving up and Lucas moving up.
Marquez beat Manny once and had a close fight previous to that at WW. On the cards, Marquez lost a close one to Bradley who is ranked #1 because of that win plus beating Manny. So Marquez should be ranked high. Maidana, Thurman, Garcia did not beat anyone close to Manny's caliber nor fought someone like Bradley yet. Until they do or if something else transpires along the way then it's hard to dispute as far as rankings are concerned since Marquez vs Bradley fight was not that long ago.Last edited by ADP02; 01-25-2014, 05:30 PM.Comment
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Keeping it real is all i do, I dont get involved in all the fan boy bs most people do on here. I stick to my guns and the facts. My posts are 90% fact and 10 % my opinion whereas others on here its vise versaThis is keeping it real....Manny is not a top 5 welterweight. He lost to Marquez who is 1-3 at the weight. Clear losses to Bradley and Mayweather and a robbery loss to Pacquaio in the third fight. Experts, media, and myself scored it for Marquez, the third fight his ranking is a farse
Bradley is undefeated at the weight....what has he done? beat non-descript Abregu, unranked at welterweight Provodnikov, 1-3 Marquez at WW, and got a gift against Pacquaio who prior to that clearly lost to the unranked Marquez in their 3rd fight.
They are spending time fighting each other and un ranked guys when other guys are really making noise....Marquez should retire, he isnt fighting Manny I doubt he could beat Bradley unless he knocks him out...After Bradley and Pacquaio fight again they should move and fight real welterweight contendersLast edited by therealpugilist; 01-25-2014, 05:52 PM.Comment
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Rankings are meant to show who has beaten the higher ranked fighters lately...who has legitimized themselves the most against other contenders, we are not talking p4p....all Bradley, Pacquiao and Marquez has done has fight each other....whereas Mayweather, maidana, porter, malignaggi are fighting ranked guys who beat ranked guysComment
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thats about as ****** as having broner in the top ten at one time
pac is not p4p at all. had back to back losses and beat some one that shouldnt of been in his leagueComment
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Pac is p4p as he outclassed Bradley, and was beating JMM before being ko'ed. Both p4p fighters.
Floyd isn't p4p as he hasn't beat any p4p fighters. He just beat Canelo, and now Canelo is considered p4p on the basis of doing quite well against Floyd?
But we know Floyd flatters fighters and makes them look better than they actually are.Comment
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Matchmaking has NOTHING to do with rankings!!! Its all about who the people who buy ppv want to see! Manny is the top ppv guy along with Floyd, Floyd is his own promoter and matchmaker and could care less about rankings! Arum puts the most colorfull ppv opponent thats avalible in with Manny.
I think the second Bradley fight is a dangerous fight for both of them.
I know Tim knows how he thinks he could win and the same goes for Pacman.
Manny in his prime can handle Tim but now its an even match up.
Theres no doubt it won't be boring like Mayweathers bouts (spar sessions)
I think Manny vs Juan is the best close out career fight for both of them with their biggest pay day but Juan doesn't think he can win or he would take it!
After all he won by KO, I don't think he thinks it could be done again or why not fight!
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