Vitali Klitschko has won 215 rds.......

[Spray_resistant]

HOLD ON THERE MATE... BEST EVER MEANS best in the family tree as well but nice try... Vitali is the superior fighter/boxer.. don't let anyone tell you the resume is better therefore he is better. Wlad has JUST gotten more job opportunities is all that is.. Vitali is better qualified for them & will have been more productive in how he performed them.

VK was impressive but again at the end of the day boxing ratings are about wins over highly rated opponents regardless of how dominant those wins were when compared to lesser opposition I would argue that Huck's CW resume is better than Vitali's HW resume even though most of Huck's last half a dozen fights ended in controversial decisions.

[KBRO]

No other ATG heavyweight champ in history has EVER managed to ONLY beat 5 current-at-the-time top 10 fighters.

But Wilder is COMING for Vitali's record and will claim the title as the BEST ever champion in heavyweight history!

You got jokes.. son!

All you idiots act as if all the supposed top 10 comp Vitali never got in the ring would NOT have been utter & complete toast at the hands of DR. IRONFIST.

Every fighter you think he hasn't faced would've gotten annihilated... esp. when these are the fighters you are actually trashing in his era... so pointing out he failed to actually fight fighters who are shet anyways enhances your points how?

What we are essentially left with is how Vitali would've fared hypothetically against past alltime greats & all H2H rankings even by avid haters of him will adnit he would've held jis own against virtually anyone.... you wanna have it both ways fine... IT'S your own blind hate & moronic logic at play here.

Just tell me how the Frazier's Liston's.. Louis's.. Foremans.. ali's & all past greats handle him.... & keep it real with boxing logic... logic dictates Vitali has size & physical dimensions all on his side & he does know how to fight.. box & is an expert at creating the perfect distance where he can let his hands go from virtually any angle.

If you can factually & honestly tell me how other fighters beat him without the usual b s about smashing & cutting his face to ribbons or throwing out his shoulder.

All THIS UTTER & COMPLETE nonsense & irrelevancy as to who he hasn't fought is all you got & you know what it's getting old..... I want you to tell how you plan on beating Klitschko with any fighter you think is capable of doing it... anything else & you're talking nonsense!

[KBRO]

Oh my god, you are serious with this post.

jesus

I am dead serious.... that's exactly what transpired... Where I come from a fighter & the guy who's hands his raised has to be proven to be MORE fit to continue.... this was never proven... same as in the Thrilla in Manilla.. especially when overall it was the actual fighter who was deemed the loser overall getting the better of the fighter who got the W.

The fact that afterwards Lewis deemed himself unfit to continue his boxing career ONLY lends credibility to what I know took place that night.. we even have evidence in the long term LEWIS was unfit to continue his boxing career.. yet we are giving him EVERY benefit of the doubt that he was more fit to continue onto rd 7 than Klitschko was because a dr said so... no second opinions.. no nothing we just took his word for it... understand I am NOT questioning the decision to stop a fighter from fighting when his face & eye region is profusely bleeding... I am questioning the validity of the W automatically awarded Lewis when there wasn't 100% proof he was in BETTER fighting shape... not better looking cosmetically which he certainly was.

Klitschko poured his heart out that night... he didn't EARN the L..... it was a technical draw at best based on the aftermath of the fight

[KBRO]

VK was impressive but again at the end of the day boxing ratings are about wins over highly rated opponents regardless of how dominant those wins were when compared to lesser opposition I would argue that Huck's CW resume is better than Vitali's HW resume even though most of Huck's last half a dozen fights ended in controversial decisions.

Opinions of opposition is just as erroneous as some of the shady ratings.. saying another fighter is better than another based on them is not very accurate. Vitali could've beat a top 50 fighter that was for all intents & purposes better than a top 10 one... unless those fighters & opposition being compared actually fought each other.. you can't say for certain one is better than the other.. especially when rankings & ratings in boxing is the most shadiest out of all the sports in rating it's performers.. it's most ly opinion.. so I find it funny how Klitschko's OPPosition gets SHETTED upon .. yet everyone who's shetting on them has no proof whatsoever... there idea of better opposition is ACTUALLY better.

[LacedUp]

HOLD ON THERE MATE... BEST EVER MEANS best in the family tree as well but nice try... Vitali is the superior fighter/boxer.. don't let anyone tell you the resume is better therefore he is better. Wlad has JUST gotten more job opportunities is all that is.. Vitali is better qualified for them & will have been more productive in how he performed them.

You got jokes.. son!

All you idiots act as if all the supposed top 10 comp Vitali never got in the ring would NOT have been utter & complete toast at the hands of DR. IRONFIST.

Every fighter you think he hasn't faced would've gotten annihilated... esp. when these are the fighters you are actually trashing in his era... so pointing out he failed to actually fight fighters who are shet anyways enhances your points how?

What we are essentially left with is how Vitali would've fared hypothetically against past alltime greats & all H2H rankings even by avid haters of him will adnit he would've held jis own against virtually anyone.... you wanna have it both ways fine... IT'S your own blind hate & moronic logic at play here.

Just tell me how the Frazier's Liston's.. Louis's.. Foremans.. ali's & all past greats handle him.... & keep it real with boxing logic... logic dictates Vitali has size & physical dimensions all on his side & he does know how to fight.. box & is an expert at creating the perfect distance where he can let his hands go from virtually any angle.

If you can factually & honestly tell me how other fighters beat him without the usual b s about smashing & cutting his face to ribbons or throwing out his shoulder.

All THIS UTTER & COMPLETE nonsense & irrelevancy as to who he hasn't fought is all you got & you know what it's getting old..... I want you to tell how you plan on beating Klitschko with any fighter you think is capable of doing it... anything else & you're talking nonsense!

I am dead serious.... that's exactly what transpired... Where I come from a fighter & the guy who's hands his raised has to be proven to be MORE fit to continue.... this was never proven... same as in the Thrilla in Manilla.. especially when overall it was the actual fighter who was deemed the loser overall getting the better of the fighter who got the W.

The fact that afterwards Lewis deemed himself unfit to continue his boxing career ONLY lends credibility to what I know took place that night.. we even have evidence in the long term LEWIS was unfit to continue his boxing career.. yet we are giving him EVERY benefit of the doubt that he was more fit to continue onto rd 7 than Klitschko was because a dr said so... no second opinions.. no nothing we just took his word for it... understand I am NOT questioning the decision to stop a fighter from fighting when his face & eye region is profusely bleeding... I am questioning the validity of the W automatically awarded Lewis when there wasn't 100% proof he was in BETTER fighting shape... not better looking cosmetically which he certainly was.

Klitschko poured his heart out that night... he didn't EARN the L..... it was a technical draw at best based on the aftermath of the fight

Klitschko fans usually live and learn..

You just live apparently.

[Jedi Vader]

I'd also like to hear that.

He won't respond to that question. If he does, he won't name those 5 fighters.

[LacedUp]

Opinions of opposition is just as erroneous as some of the shady ratings.. saying another fighter is better than another based on them is not very accurate. Vitali could've beat a top 50 fighter that was for all intents & purposes better than a top 10 one... unless those fighters & opposition being compared actually fought each other.. you can't say for certain one is better than the other.. especially when rankings & ratings in boxing is the most shadiest out of all the sports in rating it's performers.. it's most ly opinion.. so I find it funny how Klitschko's OPPosition gets SHETTED upon .. yet everyone who's shetting on them has no proof whatsoever... there idea of better opposition is ACTUALLY better.

So what you're saying is that Vitali's KO over Calvin Jones in 1997 is just as good as Foreman's win over Frazier, because who's to say which was better? I mean, Jones and Frazier never fought each other.

[LacedUp]

He won't respond to that question. If he does, he won't name those 5 fighters.

The guy doesn't even know five fighters.

[KBRO]

So what you're saying is that Vitali's KO over Calvin Jones in 1997 is just as good as Foreman's win over Frazier, because who's to say which was better? I mean, Jones and Frazier never fought each other.

Last I checked Foreman has faced more cans than Klitschko... shows your ******ity that you'd equate Jones with Frazier.. I'm talking about all the shady journeymen of yesteryear that you supposedly think are better than today's version.. alltime greats differ from alltime greats.. it's always an opinion as to who's greater when differing eras come into play.. so what is so different of the also-rans.. journeymen & top 10 lists of each era.. please don't tell me so & so fought this name & that makes him better.. when does an actual boxer's skills come into play.. it seems like it doen't.. who you fought is just that.. who you fought.. how you fight is way more of an indicative.. let's keep it in perspective.. when the actual opposition gets more play & precedence than the actual GREAT fighter being judged... you KNOW you got nothing to work with.

[KBRO]

He won't respond to that question. If he does, he won't name those 5 fighters.

Klitschko's top 47 competition... or shall I say non-competitive bouts (all of his fights).
1 through 47... all outboxed

1 through 47... all outslugged


1) Sanders.. coming off a 2rd destruction of an alltime great

2) Peter... had his belt on loan.. 4 yrs out of the game & knocked down an alltime great 3 times in one bout & beat another in two consecutive bouts.

3) Williams.. coming off a destruction of an alltime great.. made him look like an abused ragdoll.

You can clearly see a pattern.. Klitschko DESTROYED 3 FIGHTERS who destroyed 3 alltime greats.. where I come from.. that's even better than beating an alltime great... it's showing those alltime greats who got beat what they got spared.

4) ADAMEK.. former lightweight champ... still his ONLY heavyweight loss is to Klitschko... coincidence... I think not.

5)Areolla.. took his O & ONLY time ever stopped.

6) Solis.... see Areolla.

7) Charr.. see areolla & Solis

8) Hide... won his first title over a British fighter who had an even bigger Ko ratio than Haye.

9) Donald... Only fighter to stop him despite facing alltime greats in Holyfield & Bowe

10) Johnson.. only man to stop him

Honorable mentions to Lennox Lewis & Shannon Briggs.. two alltime sluggers who have yet to step foot in a boxing ring with gloves on ever again because there last memory was of Klitschko's fists being embredded in there skulls.


That's just 12 of the 47... 25%