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  • Babalu11
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    #21
    Cotto thinks he's just gonna outhustle a 40 year old and collect the belt. Cotto is wrong, even at this stage Martinez should be faster, stronger and bigger than Cotto. I like Cotto, but this is a bad matchup specially at this weight.

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    • Black Barty
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      #22
      Originally posted by Babalu11
      Cotto thinks he's just gonna outhustle a 40 year old and collect the belt. Cotto is wrong, even at this stage Martinez should be faster, stronger and bigger than Cotto. I like Cotto, but this is a bad matchup specially at this weight.
      Pretty much this. Martinez is probably not faded enough for Cotto to have much of a chance. His mobility may be compromised, but he still has advantages in handspeed and power, and his chin is solid.

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      • radioraheem
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        #23
        Originally posted by Babalu11
        Cotto thinks he's just gonna outhustle a 40 year old and collect the belt. Cotto is wrong, even at this stage Martinez should be faster, stronger and bigger than Cotto. I like Cotto, but this is a bad matchup specially at this weight.
        Originally posted by Black Barty
        Pretty much this. Martinez is probably not faded enough for Cotto to have much of a chance. His mobility may be compromised, but he still has advantages in handspeed and power, and his chin is solid.
        As far as technical boxing skills go, I think Cotto is the superior fighter. He's more fundamentally sound. I think his only disadvantage is size in comparison to Martinez. I think he'll expose Martinez. His weak defense will not be his friend either.

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        • Black Barty
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          #24
          Originally posted by radioraheem
          As far as technical boxing skills go, I think Cotto is the superior fighter. He's more fundamentally sound. I think his only disadvantage is size in comparison to Martinez. I think he'll expose Martinez. His weak defense will not be his friend either.
          No offense but if you really believe this, you are obviously biased. Martinez is clearly much faster of hand than Cotto, and has scored scored several KO's at middleweight over world title level opp, whereas Cotto is not a big puncher even at 154 (knocking out Mayorga and Rodriguez really doesn't mean much).

          And Cotto is indeed more fundamentally sound, but he is no defensive wizard. In fact, he is quite hittable, arguably even more so than Martinez.

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          • Stark777
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            #25
            Cotto is pretty badass to take this fight at 160. I'd give the edge to Martinez if he were in top condition but I am not sure how well his injuries in his hand and knee are gonna heal, and he isn´t getting any younger...

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            • thatdudespits
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              #26
              Originally posted by Black Barty
              No offense but if you really believe this, you are obviously biased. Martinez is clearly much faster of hand than Cotto, and has scored scored several KO's at middleweight over world title level opp, whereas Cotto is not a big puncher even at 154 (knocking out Mayorga and Rodriguez really doesn't mean much).

              And Cotto is indeed more fundamentally sound, but he is no defensive wizard. In fact, he is quite hittable, arguably even more so than Martinez.
              Cotto is quite better defensively than Martinez, and the numbers support that statement...

              Against Sergio...

              Murray landed 29%
              Macklin landed 29%
              Barker landed 38%
              Dzinziruk landed 39%
              Chavez lander 46%

              Against Cotto...

              Margarito landed 22%
              Trout landed 29%
              Mayweather landed 26%
              Foreman landed 25%
              Rodriguez landed 24%

              Martinez is very hittable and Cotto is sharper and faster than all those guys.

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              • Larry the boss
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                #27
                Cotto is going to take a beating in this fight

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                • El Angel
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by thatdudespits
                  Cotto is quite better defensively than Martinez, and the numbers support that statement...

                  Against Sergio...

                  Murray landed 29%
                  Macklin landed 29%
                  Barker landed 38%
                  Dzinziruk landed 39%
                  Chavez lander 46%

                  Against Cotto...

                  Margarito landed 22%
                  Trout landed 29%
                  Mayweather landed 26%
                  Foreman landed 25%
                  Rodriguez landed 24%

                  Martinez is very hittable and Cotto is sharper and faster than all those guys.
                  I'm not sure where the idea came from that Martinez was this slick defensive wizard. He's offensive counterpuncher who relies on a lot of movement and leaning for defense. A skilled boxer like Cotto can touch him up.

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                  • thatdudespits
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by LarryXXX
                    Cotto is going to take a beating in this fight
                    What makes you think so?

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                    • Black Barty
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by thatdudespits
                      Cotto is quite better defensively than Martinez, and the numbers support that statement...

                      Against Sergio...

                      Murray landed 29%
                      Macklin landed 29%
                      Barker landed 38%
                      Dzinziruk landed 39%
                      Chavez lander 46%

                      Against Cotto...

                      Margarito landed 22%
                      Trout landed 29%
                      Mayweather landed 26%
                      Foreman landed 25%
                      Rodriguez landed 24%

                      Martinez is very hittable and Cotto is sharper and faster than all those guys.
                      Compubox stats? Seriously? Then let me answer in kind.

                      Let's only count the fights that lasted at least 11 rounds.

                      Murray landed 160 punches.
                      Macklin landed 104 punches (11 rounds)
                      Chavez landed 178 punches.

                      Margarito landed 157 punches.
                      Mayweather landed 179 punches.
                      Trout landed 238 punches.

                      I fail to see the big difference. And if you have seen Cotto fight, you should know how hittable he is (except against overmatched opponents like Gomez or Rodriguez, whom Cotto steamrolls before they can get anything going offensively).

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