Cut the bull**** regarding Mayweather

[HeroBando]

Can you read? A lot of athletes don't get caught. Do you understand that, especially if they aren't being properly tested? The words coming out of Roach's mouth should be at least heard since they are associated with a tainted guy like the illustrious Alex Ariza.



You're right, it is smoke, a "smokescreen" by Pac's deluded to try to change the subject to Mayweather.

There's nothing new with Roach, he said way back in 2009 he doesn't know what's in Ariza shakes, and now there's bad blood between the two. Bottom line neither guy has failed a drug test, and there's su****ious activities and rumors around both camps. I mean, what Dan Rafael says is pretty incriminating as well, though nothing conclusive.

"Derek (Tampa)
What do you make of that article that goes out of its way to implicate Floyd Mayweather as a PED user without actually saying it?

Dan Rafael (12:13 PM)
That has been the rumor for a long time but I need to see proof before I accuse somebody of something so serious. What is fact, however, is that the settlement in the Pacquiao/Mayweather lawsuit happened after the Pacquiao camp tried to get Mayweather's USADA testing records. So maybe where there is smoke there is fire."

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There's nothing new with Roach, he said way back in 2009 he doesn't know what's in Ariza shakes, and now there's bad blood between the two. Bottom line neither guy has failed a drug test, and there's su****ious activities and rumors around both camps. I mean, what Dan Rafael says is pretty incriminating as well, though nothing conclusive.

"Derek (Tampa)
What do you make of that article that goes out of its way to implicate Floyd Mayweather as a PED user without actually saying it?

Dan Rafael (12:13 PM)
That has been the rumor for a long time but I need to see proof before I accuse somebody of something so serious. What is fact, however, is that the settlement in the Pacquiao/Mayweather lawsuit happened after the Pacquiao camp tried to get Mayweather's USADA testing records. So maybe where there is smoke there is fire."

Where's the tape on this or a link to an article I can examine? In 2009, did Roach say this on video to a reporter because if he did its even more relevant now that Ariza is seen as "shady?"

[HeroBando]

Where's the tape on this or a link to an article I can examine? In 2009, did Roach say this on video to a reporter because if he did its even more relevant now that Ariza is seen as "shady?"

Maybe it was Ariza who said Pac doesn't even know what's in the shakes, I don't remember. But if you google Ariza shakes, you'll get a ton of links from way back. It's nothing new, every s & c coach administers supplements.

What is surprising is that Floyd doesn't know what TRT is (and makes a really funny face when asked) when a much less experienced guy from his camp, Bey Jr, knows all about its benefits. And Floyd's former manager and current friend runs a chain of TRT clinics. Very surprising.

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Maybe it was Ariza who said Pac doesn't even know what's in the shakes, I don't remember. But if you google Ariza shakes, you'll get a ton of links from way back. It's nothing new, every s & c coach administers supplements.

What is surprising is that Floyd doesn't know what TRT is (and makes a really funny face when asked) when a much less experienced guy from his camp, Bey Jr, knows all about its benefits. And Floyd's former manager and current friend runs a chain of TRT clinics. Very surprising.

You're doing it, did you catch it? I like to call this the "Pactarrrd gloss." No links or videos posted by yourself just a bunch of rationalizations that lead you conveniently away from facing reality and to the hated Mayweather. Reality avoidance is a pretty common trait in the Pacquiao obsessed.

[HeroBando]

You're doing it, did you catch it? I like to call this the "Pactarrrd gloss." No links or videos posted by yourself just a bunch of rationalizations that lead you conveniently away from facing reality and to the hated Mayweather. Reality avoidance is a pretty common trait in the Pacquiao obsessed.

Alright Mr Vacuous, nothing but hot air again. Google it yourself, plenty of Ariza shakes links from way back. It's the same kind of smoke you refuse to smell when coming from the other camp. Others are not so blinkered, even mainstream guys like Rafael. Weren't you a catchweight crier before Floyd asked for that one?

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Alright Mr Vacuous, nothing but hot air again. Google it yourself, plenty of Ariza shakes links from way back. It's the same kind of smoke you refuse to smell when coming from the other camp. Others are not so blinkered, even mainstream guys like Rafael. Weren't you a catchweight crier before Floyd asked for that one?

[radioraheem]

Were you crapping on Floyd all these years when he kept accusing to the world that Manny is on PEDs with no proof? Was Floyd being amateurish? Why do that unless he just didn't want the fight, right?

As for Floyd, he says that he comes into the ring ALL 100% NATURAL, right? Yet he has admitted to shooting up drugs into his hands just so he can smash in is opponents face harder than otherwise possible ...... so he took the drugs to get an advantage!

Floyd has shown in the past that he would take any advantage possible such as shooting up his hands, to cheap shots on the break (Gatti, Mosley, Ortiz, ...) , elbowing his opponent continuously, demanding for a CW when both his opponent and he hold a title in the division, .....

I'm not saying more than I said about Floyd but it's funny that you even try to reverse the blame and say "Just because Floyd was attacking Manny on this now everyone is attacking Floyd" ..... was the initial attack (Accusations) warranted by Floyd Jr and Sr?

No, because that was his opinion. And anyone is entitled to an opinion. Floyd isn't amateurish because he gave his opinion about Pacquaio. But if you are allegedly a professional journalist, and you're publishing articles based on rumor, rather than facts -- that is amateur city. You can't even get away with doing that at any reputable college.

And I didn't reverse any blame. I didn't blame anyone. What I said was that by Floyd making accusations, eventually his critics would make the same accusations towards him. Regardless of whether or not there's any proof.

[radioraheem]

You're doing it, did you catch it? I like to call this the "Pactarrrd gloss." No links or videos posted by yourself just a bunch of rationalizations that lead you conveniently away from facing reality and to the hated Mayweather. Reality avoidance is a pretty common trait in the Pacquiao obsessed.

That's how they roll. Rarely, if at all, present any facts. But lots of reaching, gossip, rumor, like a knitting-circle.

[QballLobo]

I thought this was all confirmed when that pic of Floyd's itty bitty little pecker showed up online.

[junior gong]

He NEVER had a positive blood or urine test

No, he had three failed tests.