Comments Thread For: Martinez-Cotto Will Have No Catch-Weight Clause

[Realizniguhnit]

Okay, because you said it, it's true.

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Cotto has never shown he can beat someone of Martinez's caliber he couldn't even beat Trout or little Floyd but he can beat Martinez?

[Beater_of_ass]

Martinez was willing to fight Cotto at 154. Stop the nonsense please. And he didn't use the weight as an excuse. He said "Sergio doesn't bring the money like Margarito". He specifically mentioned MONEY....lol so enough with the "legacy" crap please!

If it was just about money he would have fought Canelo though. Stop discrediting it like it means nothing, because even you know your dumbass comment about Cotto ducking Canelo to face the lineal MW champion is impossible to defend.

[El Angel]

I hadn't notice anyone using it except you tbh. You can call him whatever you want, doesn't make it any less illogical and gay.

I see two just in this thread. You can't read, that's on you.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

No way in hell was Martinez going to 154 lbs to fight Cotto. If it were Mayweather or Pacquaio, it's a strong possibility. But not for Miguel Cotto, no way in hell. Martinez struggles to make 160 lbs, just like Canelo struggles to make 154 lbs. Just like many of these fighters struggling to make weight at divisions they really don't belong in.

He quite obviously would have. He stated it on numerous occassions. Cotto is arguably the 3rd biggest draw in the sport behind those two. There's no way in hell he wouldn't have gone to 154 for Cotto. You're deluded if you think otherwise.

[El Angel]

Cotto has never shown he can beat someone of Martinez's caliber he couldn't even beat Trout or little Floyd but he can beat Martinez?

Does Martinez have what Trout and Floyd had left in the tank?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

If it was just about money he would have fought Canelo though. Stop discrediting it like it means nothing, because even you know your dumbass comment about Cotto ducking Canelo to face the lineal MW champion is impossible to defend.

But he will fight Canelo. That's my point! Whatever happens in this fight, unless he gets a serious injury - he will still be viewed as a viable opponent for Canelo because he can use the excuse that 160 is not his weight etc etc.

[Beater_of_ass]

Back then Sergio Martinez had little leverage. So he could be forced to bend to certain conditions. This time around Martinez has much more leverage than back then.

Cotto says - I want a catchweight. NOPE! I want to walk out second. NOPE! I want to (fill in the blank). NOPE, go to hell! Martinez has leverage this time so he can do that. If Martinez were negotiating with Pacquaio and Mayweather -- trust, he will bend backwards and forwards because they have toooooo much leverage against him and the payday would be greater. Cotto doesn't have that going for him.

But like I said, catchweight or no catchweight, I think Cotto wins and exposes Martinez. The one thing I think Cotto should request is random drug testing. But I think Cotto is foolish enough to not even demand for the one thing that matters more than any of that other ****.

I stopped reading when I saw "Cotto asked for a CW" because he didn't they said 160 was fine even before negotiations even started. Add to that Martinez also said 157 or 158 is fine and they are still saying 160 which sounds like a CW was never even talked about, go away. At least Dirk uses some valid ****ing points not completely false rumors.

BTW I'm totally fine with Kneeguel Quitto nickname, I think it's pretty creative lol.

[El Angel]

Back then Sergio Martinez had little leverage. So he could be forced to bend to certain conditions. This time around Martinez has much more leverage than back then.

Cotto says - I want a catchweight. NOPE! I want to walk out second. NOPE! I want to (fill in the blank). NOPE, go to hell! Martinez has leverage this time so he can do that. If Martinez were negotiating with Pacquaio and Mayweather -- trust, he will bend backwards and forwards because they have toooooo much leverage against him and the payday would be greater. Cotto doesn't have that going for him.

But like I said, catchweight or no catchweight, I think Cotto wins and exposes Martinez. The one thing I think Cotto should request is random drug testing. But I think Cotto is foolish enough to not even demand for the one thing that matters more than any of that other ****.

Cotto is worth more $$$ to him than PW was and Sergio and his team must realize that. Martinez has more leverage now, but he still doesn't have the leverage of being the 3rd biggest draw in the sport.

You think Sergio is juicing?

[Beater_of_ass]

But he will fight Canelo. That's my point! Whatever happens in this fight, unless he gets a serious injury - he will still be viewed as a viable opponent for Canelo because he can use the excuse that 160 is not his weight etc etc.

Then why are we arguing, that's what I said Cotto should do. Try stating it like that instead of Cotto ducking a hypejob and maybe we won't have a misunderstanding.

[Realizniguhnit]

Does Martinez have what Trout and Floyd had left in the tank?

The bigger question should be how much does COTTO have left in the tank? Martinez is much bigger so he's already at an advantage...