Ya that's right Floyd, real fighters, real warriors have losses.When you dont hand pick your opponrnts and doctor your record for a paper thin legacy you have losses. When you take risks for the fans instead of hding behind a meaningless undefeated record you have losses. When you try to knock guys out for the fans instead of dancing and throwing sissy punches for 12 rounds you have losses. When you are a real fighter and not a media creation you have losses. We are all idiots for buying this product from Maynever time after time. He's an idiot but what does that make us.
poocquiao fans mad as hell..they just don't want to accept the fact that their hero is a desperate nobody who's in debt..it sucks to be a pac fan
lol, Pac has been KTFO but his country is still behind him. Floyd can't even get respect in his own country and he's undefeated and wealthy. This is what makes me laugh - people just don't understand why Pac is respected. They don't understand the difference between the 2 cultures and doesn't understand what it takes to gain respect.
The majority of ****** pac hate comments here is based on ignorance of Pac's culture and how he was brought up. BUT the majority of Floyd hate comments are based on Floyd's OWN ignorance and his hypocritical comments.
lol, Pac has been KTFO but his country is still behind him. Floyd can't even get respect in his own country and he's undefeated and wealthy. This is what makes me laugh - people just don't understand why Pac is respected. They don't understand the difference between the 2 cultures and doesn't understand what it takes to gain respect.
The majority of ****** pac hate comments here is based on ignorance of Pac's culture and how he was brought up. BUT the majority of Floyd hate comments are based on Floyd's OWN ignorance and his hypocritical comments.
Problem Maya**** is Manny isn't making a living fighting there, he's making a living fighting here. It's great that he is a national hero and is respected by everyone in his country, but if that was good enough or paid enough he wouldn't be arguing over dollar amounts like the full fledged capitalist he is.
No one criticizes the respect he gets from fellow citizens. We criticize the behaviors and actions as reflected in out culture-the culture he earns his money in.
He can be your hero and cultural icon when he is home. Here, he's just another guy who has come to America to take advantages of the opportunities you can get here that you can't get anywhere else.
DO not expect people to treat him like a national hero here. Expect people to make jokes about his personal shortcomings just like any other high profile person. Expect to have his decisions and personal life scrutinized. Thats the price you pay in America for wealth and fame.
Remember, Manny always has the option to ply his trade elsewhere. He doesn't have to subject himself to this culture.
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the bottom line is pacman clearly wants to do this fight, mayweather, as usual still doesnt.
be funny when he announces khan as his opponent. could be making a career high payday but lets fight khan instead.
Funny, you didn't have a problem when manny turned down career high paydays on two separate occassions. Could you please apply the same rules to every fighter.
Problem Maya**** is Manny isn't making a living fighting there, he's making a living fighting here. It's great that he is a national hero and is respected by everyone in his country, but if that was good enough or paid enough he wouldn't be arguing over dollar amounts like the full fledged capitalist he is.
No one criticizes the respect he gets from fellow citizens. We criticize the behaviors and actions as reflected in out culture-the culture he earns his money in.
He can be your hero and cultural icon when he is home. Here, he's just another guy who has come to America to take advantages of the opportunities you can get here that you can't get anywhere else.
DO not expect people to treat him like a national hero here. Expect people to make jokes about his personal shortcomings just like any other high profile person. Expect to have his decisions and personal life scrutinized. Thats the price you pay in America for wealth and fame.
Remember, Manny always has the option to ply his trade elsewhere. He doesn't have to subject himself to this culture.
you what? why is that a problem? its a free world.
Funny, you didn't have a problem when manny turned down career high paydays on two separate occassions. Could you please apply the same rules to every fighter.
no leonard. floyd walked away from a 50/50 because he couldnt get extra testing. funny how that was never a problem when he was fighting ricky hatton isnt it?
and yes, pacman turned down 40 mil, i can also say floyd turned down the same offer but with 50 mil.
so you can spin it anyway you want.
you yourself said the 40 offer was a joke, but now it fits your agenda you be like, oh he turned it down floyd is the best of all times!!!!
funny how floyd fans keep coming up with reasons why floyd shouldnt fight this guy, instead of being a fan and demanding the fight like all true boxing fans want.
you are one of these guys that is more interested in how many people are watching the tv when floyd is on, or how many millions are going into floyds bank account than the actual fights themselves. im more interested in watching competitive fights, but whatever.
as you fanboys like to profess, floyd is his own boss and can pick and choose who he wants to fight. maybe you can explain why he is trying to fight khan?
you what? why is that a problem? its a free world.
Its not a problem. It means he's a capitalist interested in money same as floyd or any one else. It's ok if he's seen as an icon at home. Here, he's just another athlete seeking the fame and the fortune. He should get treated as such.
Problem Maya**** is Manny isn't making a living fighting there, he's making a living fighting here. It's great that he is a national hero and is respected by everyone in his country, but if that was good enough or paid enough he wouldn't be arguing over dollar amounts like the full fledged capitalist he is.
No one criticizes the respect he gets from fellow citizens. We criticize the behaviors and actions as reflected in out culture-the culture he earns his money in.
He can be your hero and cultural icon when he is home. Here, he's just another guy who has come to America to take advantages of the opportunities you can get here that you can't get anywhere else.
DO not expect people to treat him like a national hero here. Expect people to make jokes about his personal shortcomings just like any other high profile person. Expect to have his decisions and personal life scrutinized. Thats the price you pay in America for wealth and fame.
Remember, Manny always has the option to ply his trade elsewhere. He doesn't have to subject himself to this culture.
Exactly, and that's why we compare Floyd vs Manny's actions! You, for example, loves to bring up Manny cheating on his wife and Manny's ******** problems, but fail to talk about Floyd's behavior when it comes to mistreating women and ******** habits which is so much worse!
My post has nothing to do with wanting Pac to be treated like a hero here in the States, that's not the point. When pac fans brag about Pac, it has to do with his underdog story and how he stays humble even with his rise to popularity and how he represents our country. I don't give a crap about how much money he makes, heck even my folks make fun of Pac's tax problems. There is a reason why Pac is more respected than Donaire. It's not all about skills, it's how you present yourself as a human being. When Floyd fans brag about Floyd, it's about his 0 and his money. There IS a difference.
The funny thing about what you posted is that EVERYTHING you said applies to Floyd, specifically this:
"DO not expect people to treat him like a national hero here. Expect people to make jokes about his personal shortcomings just like any other high profile person. Expect to have his decisions and personal life scrutinized. Thats the price you pay in America for wealth and fame."
and that's EXACTLY why Floyd is being criticized by everyone! You seen those videos of Floyd crying about being an 'american' but not getting respect, lol. That's exactly what I'm saying about Floyd ignorant. So next time you get defensive about why people hate on Floyd, don't forget what you just posted, because I know you forget things
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