Quick article on Ishida's hw sparring session

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  • thebowtod
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    #11
    O.o he looks in great shape wow

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    • US Dirk Killer
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      #12
      Originally posted by Rocky=Ward
      O.o he looks in great shape wow
      He does....Mr. JMW right?
      Mr. JMW now fighting at HW?

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      • ИATAS
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        #13
        Originally posted by US Dirk Killer
        LOL, Golovkin haters say he only fights JMW's, but Ishida had fights at MW before Golovkin and even fought for the WBO title...now he's fighting at HW.
        What will people say if he beat that HW?
        I never understood why people say Ishida was a JMW when he fought GGG. Ishida fought Pirog, Williams and Kirkland at 160 his past three fights before GGG. And he fought at MW like 9 times total and is 6'2.

        Anyways, pretty crazy to see him at 201 and still look fit

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        • Oxn
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          #14
          Originally posted by ИATAS
          I never understood why people say Ishida was a JMW when he fought GGG. Ishida fought Pirog, Williams and Kirkland at 160 his past three fights before GGG. And he fought at MW like 9 times total and is 6'2.

          Anyways, pretty crazy to see him at 201 and still look fit
          Wait, when did he fight pirog and williams?

          Did he?

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          • US Dirk Killer
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            #15
            Originally posted by Oxn
            Wait, when did he fight pirog and williams?

            Did he?
            Yea... he had a tune up after Kirkland then fought those two and then GGG.
            GGG was the second MW title he fought for

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              #16
              Originally posted by ИATAS
              I never understood why people say Ishida was a JMW when he fought GGG. Ishida fought Pirog, Williams and Kirkland at 160 his past three fights before GGG. And he fought at MW like 9 times total and is 6'2.

              Anyways, pretty crazy to see him at 201 and still look fit
              He's been called a 154 pounder because it was the only weight he has ever remotely been effective in. While his best win in Kirkland was technically at middleweight, it was at 155 against a jr middleweight, which is a ton closer to his natural 154 weight than 160. He was already feather fisted at 154. At 160 he had no hope.

              EDIT: I got Williams confused with the Kirkland fight. Kirkland was a 158 catchweight. Still, Kirkland is normally a 154 pounders. Catchweights above a fighters weight in non-title fights is normal just to give them an easier to time to make weight. Peter Quillin has a ton of fights above 160. Doesn't make him a super middleweight.
              Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 01-11-2014, 02:28 PM.

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                #17
                Damn he put on that weight nicely

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                • US Dirk Killer
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                  He's been called a 154 pounder because it was the only weight he has ever remotely been effective in. While it his best win in Kirkland was technically middleweight, it was at 155, which is a ton closer to his natural 154 weight than 160. He was already feather fisted at 154. At 160 he had no hope.
                  But you admit he fought his past few fights at MW.
                  Why don't I call Pac a true Super Bantam or Super feather?
                  I mean, those were the weights he was best in right?
                  He's just a Super Bantam/Super Feather fighting at WW?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by US Dirk Killer
                    But you admit he fought his past few fights at MW.
                    Why don't I call Pac a true Super Bantam or Super feather?
                    I mean, those were the weights he was best in right?
                    He's just a Super Bantam/Super Feather fighting at WW?
                    Pacquiao has been effective at 147. Ishida has not been effective at 160.

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                    • US Dirk Killer
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                      Pacquiao has been effective at 147. Ishida has not been effective at 160.
                      Yea, at CW's

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