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  • #41
    This is getting kind of redundant... and the ATG talk is ridiculous. If there was a super heavyweight division in the pros, I think it would improve the sport. Make the cutoff 225-230. Look at all the other weight classes leading up to HW, some every 4-5 lbs. No reason a SHW class shouldn't exist.

    And if Wlad didn't have so much height and reach advantage, he'd just be a gatekeeper... and all that grabbing protects a weak chin, nothing more. He!!, Wlad vs Arreola would be alot more interesting than this waste of time. Or for that matter Wilder, Stiverne, Fury. Geez, let this bum retire already... get some interesting fights going with the young blood. You watch, his next fight will be Adamek. HA!

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    • #42
      Originally posted by PittyPat View Post
      I never said it was Wladimir's fault. However, it's on him to get rid of this guy quickly and give Pulev his shot, then call out Fury or Wilder due to their popularity. If the latter pair doesn't jump at the chance this time, then they can be labelled bitches.

      I've been a supporter of Wladimir for a while now, and I had no problem with him fighting Wach, Thompson II or even Pianeta, but this Leapai fight is absolute garbage. If Wladimir truly respects the HW division, he himself should tell the whole world that it's a garbage fight and that he's only doing it to keep the belts.
      Sorry, it's just your post read exactly like you're blaming Wladimir for things he's not in control of and putting things on him that I don't think are on him. Let me state my case in why I'm disagreeing with you, not trying to get personal or anything, but I say this: No, it's not on him to get anybody out quickly. It's on him to win his fights. Everybody always seems to say the same thing when it comes to Wlad, haters and lovers about him getting guys out early. It's not his responsibility but it's also not smart. His faults do not play well with trying to blitz people fast. He's a 240+ guy in his late thirties now and he wasn't built for it in his twenties in the 220's. He learned. Almost all of us like that Wlad more but we all need to learn that's not what works for him and he knows it. His responsibility is to make sure he's not vulnerable and get the win. People are not being sensible when they want him to work against himself.

      It's not on him to call out his contenders. It's on them to get him. That's what the job of a contender is. Literally. That's their job. That's why they have the avenue to become mandatory challengers. That's the entire system for over a century. Contenders go after champions.

      It's on Fury and Wilder if they wanted the fight in the first place to get there before somebody like Boytsov drops one to someone like Leapai. That's if they really want it. Fury was the one who dropped out of the eliminator to earn a shot at Wlad. Wilder is the one who fought Firtha instead of someone like Jennings. If they don't want to be contenders and that's not why they're here, I get that. Business is business and if they don't think it's good business to try and become the best at any given point in their career, I get it. But if they're not trying to get Wlad, it's not on Wlad at all to get them unless they're holding a belt that should be his. He takes care of his mandatories. I'm an American Wilder fan, by the way.

      You know what happens when Wlad calls out Fury? I do. Nothing but talk from Fury. I like Fury, he's a fun guy and a good fighter. But let's be real. He has not wanted this. He could've had it in 2012. You know what happened when he called Arreola out? Arreola said he wasn't ready like a lot of guys and Wlad ended up fighting Mormeck with everybody saying **** like "He should be fighting somebody like Fury or Arreola at least." Then Arreola started talking after Wlad had the fight signed as though he's been after it when he was on record saying he wasn't when it was offered. It's pretty funny really. Bottom line, guys complain about contracts, but won't earn a better deal as mandatories? Because they don't want it. So Leapai? If he's the one that wanted it and earned it and signed on the dotted line there's nothing wrong with that. He did what he was supposed to do.

      Yeah, on one hand I do agree that the WBO made a crapy eliminator. They rarely enforce a mandatory for Wlad and this one was just ****** and uncalled for and yes Wlad would be doing a cool thing if he told the WBO to f**k off but A. Why would Wlad let them take his hard-earned belt and ruin what to him has always been the ultimate success of keeping all the belts in the family, while pretty much snatching away the lottery ticket won by a guy that came to fight through to a big upset when these other contenders like Wilder haven't even taken fights like that in the first place let alone won them?

      Frankly if you had no problem with Pianeta and Wach who had nice looking records but no better wins than Leapai, then Leapai should be fine with you too. He did beat Boytsov and did beat Walker. Better wins than any Wach and Pianeta, don't you think? At least on par for when they beat their best guys. I don't like the fight but I'm not going to pretend Wlad has the ability to snatch anybody he wants or the obligation to give away his ***elry or fight against his winning M.O. People put a lot on Wlad that just ain't on Wlad. That's all I'm saying.

      This is a longazz reply. Didn't mean for it to be. Hope it was coherent. I'm pretty tired and I ramble when I get sleepy. I was going to try and cut it down but I gotta be up in like four hours. I'm screwed. I can't worry about post rambling when I'm this screwed.

      Originally posted by Cuban Linx View Post
      Who says he wont fight Pulev after this fight?

      Wlad doesn't need to call anyone out... He holds all the money in the division.
      Yeah why do people think they're too good to become mandatory? Leapai sure isn't one of the most talented guys in the division but he has it over some of the top talents by just taking a fight that would get him a mandatory position and giving it his best. He took the risk and won. If a guy with class talent like Solis did that, we wouldn't have to be complaining about a poor guy like Leapai!


      Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
      This is getting kind of redundant... and the ATG talk is ridiculous. If there was a super heavyweight division in the pros, I think it would improve the sport. Make the cutoff 225-230. Look at all the other weight classes leading up to HW, some every 4-5 lbs. No reason a SHW class shouldn't exist.

      And if Wlad didn't have so much height and reach advantage, he'd just be a gatekeeper... and all that grabbing protects a weak chin, nothing more. He!!, Wlad vs Arreola would be alot more interesting than this waste of time. Or for that matter Wilder, Stiverne, Fury. Geez, let this bum retire already... get some interesting fights going with the young blood. You watch, his next fight will be Adamek. HA!

      Wlad almost always does better against guys his size. What happened with McCline, Austin, Thompson and Wach, etc? Do people go spontaneously blind every time they see something that doesn't suit their agenda? Too funny. Wlad's size isn't your problem. It's his talent. Watch Chambers against Dimitrenko, then against Wlad. Watch Haye and Chagaev against Valuev, then watch them both against Wlad. Watch Ibragimov against Austin and Whitaker. Then watch him against Wlad. The list goes on forever. It's not a coincidence that average and smaller sized name heavyweights get dominated by Klitschko but not other "super" heavies. There's a reason why David Price and Tyson Fury are not dominating the division because they're bigger than the Klitschkos. Huge guys are all over the place. Wlad is still the boss. Not Valuev, not Helenius, not Kelvin Price and Julius Long. Don't kid yourself. You're talking nonsense.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
        This is getting kind of redundant... and the ATG talk is ridiculous. If there was a super heavyweight division in the pros, I think it would improve the sport. Make the cutoff 225-230. Look at all the other weight classes leading up to HW, some every 4-5 lbs. No reason a SHW class shouldn't exist.

        And if Wlad didn't have so much height and reach advantage, he'd just be a gatekeeper... and all that grabbing protects a weak chin, nothing more. He!!, Wlad vs Arreola would be alot more interesting than this waste of time. Or for that matter Wilder, Stiverne, Fury. Geez, let this bum retire already... get some interesting fights going with the young blood. You watch, his next fight will be Adamek. HA!
        No need for a SHW division, Klitschko I & II will be gone soon enough and there isn't a third one coming through the ranks.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Arthur Daley View Post
          A win over Chisora wouldn't have meant as much as a win over Mormeck though. Chisora is just a fat hardy guy with gloves on at the end of the day.
          As is the rest of the division.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Jedi Vader View Post
            As is the rest of the division.
            The HW division is quite good.

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            • #46
              Wlad vs leapia Makes Floyd-khan look like a superfight

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              • #47
                Originally posted by PittyPat View Post
                This fight is disgusting and inexcusible, seeing as Pulev has been in line for a title shot for nearly 2 years now. I was willing to give Wladimir a free pass for the Mormeck fight, seeing as nobody of note wanted to fight him at the time, but now there's at least 3 guys (Pulev, Fury, Wilder) who would take the opportunity right now and make an interesting fight of it.

                Wladimir had better get Leapai out of there in less than one fucking round to erase this mess. If he so much as pushes him down once or falls into a clinch on his own, then he truly is a glass-jawed bitch like everyone says.
                I can just see the hate oozing out of this post. Be as it may, Pulev will get his chance in 2014. It's actually good that you believe this because without some "controversy" and talk of "ducking", it would be just another Klitschko clinic.

                After all, he has done nothing but beat Title holders and mandatories (some even twice because they reached mandatory status). Maybe Wlad should "duck" Pulev some more just to build it up even more.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                  I'll bet you anything this fight goes more than 3 rounds. Probably 6 before Wlad has hugged him enough to throw the right hand.
                  Or maybe he lands the triple left hook and get him out of there in 2 rounds, a la Ray Austin. Though I would prefer a slow, methodical beat down, with long, hard, stiff jabs and the occasional right, followed up by (Yes!) the occasional clinch. Just to *** with everybody.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by GoldenGloveLove View Post
                    Pulev got held up by opponents the IBF had rightly tried to get for a good eliminator. Everybody complains about guys not earning their shots and the IBF scheduled Adamek, Solis, Pulev and Ustinov for a chance to really earn it instead of sitting on a padded record until they get offered a shot.

                    Two of those guys dropped out and held Pulev up-Solis, then Adamek. Not Wlad's fault. They got Fury. Fury won his half of the eliminator and dropped out and left Pulev with his jimmy swinging in the wind for Haye. Not Wlad's fault in any way. Thompson saved the day like a boss and stepped in for Fury's half of the eliminator. Pulev won the final eliminator in August. Not Wlad's fault it took that long. It had nothing to do with decisions made by Wlad. Pulev said he wanted at least one more fight before Wlad. Not Wlad's fault. Wlad did not make Pulev wait. Now he's got his mandatory with Leapai. Leapai beat Boytsov. That is not Wlad's fault.
                    Shhh, don't tell these guys the chronological facts, they don't wanna read about all that. Remember, Wlad has to face certain opponents at the specific time that they want, beat him in a fashion that they want, and get him out of there at the round they demand.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Lou Cipher View Post
                      The Klitchkos are simply amazing. Neither could win a real Championship by beating Lennox Lewis....then they spend another decade holding up all the paper titles by defending against guys nobody has even heard of before. Seriously at least one of every 3 Klitchko opponents the first time I ever heard their name was when it was announced they were fighting a Klitchko. It's surreal
                      That's because you're a nitwit who doesn't pay attention. Clearly, the division is not getting proper coverage on U.S. TV networks. Still, that's no excuse to come on here arrogantly by stating that you never heard of any opponents. Go watch 'Celebrity housewives' if you want famous.

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