is manny pacquiao really an ATG

[HeroBando]

Fighting Khan is much more impressive than fighting Rios.

You musta forgot

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=617864

[Bermuda]

if you need to ask this then you don't know **** about boxing.....

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

most call BS on the "8 division" hype anyway... but try to discredit LINEAL champ in 4 divisions. it doesnt get more REAL than that....

8th division was BS, but he couldve EASILY gotten a 154 title a more "legit" way... he couldve taken it from yuri foreman like cotto did. same strap floyd currently holds.

I wish lineal champ meant more than it really does

[BUNGALOWS]

I thought bath salts were banned?

[boliodogs]

You clearly don't think so or you wouldn't start a thread asking if he really is. I say of course he is an all time great and every bit as much of an all time great as Mayweather. I am thinking you are a big Mayweather fan because the biggest Pacquiao haters are usually big Mayweather fans.

[Pugilist95]

You clearly don't think so or you wouldn't start a thread asking if he really is. I say of course he is an all time great and every bit as much of an all time great as Mayweather. I am thinking you are a big Mayweather fan because the biggest Pacquiao haters are usually big Mayweather fans.

And vice versa.....

[boxinggod101]

Pacman=ATG since the war with Floyd started some Floyd fans wants to discredit what Manny has done in boxing. People who dont have an agenda knows hes an ATG and people whos not manny groupie knows Floyd is an ATG too. Hereswhat the great Emanuel Steward had to say about Manny.

Pacquiao's accomplishments in the ring and who he has defeated in the ring should leave no doubt as to where he ranks all time. Sure there will be a few people who are probably just miserable anyway, that will dig through a ton of good to find a speck of bad on Manny and then write about it, but anyone with two cents worth of intelligence understands and appreciates Pacquiao for what he is.

When Emanuel Steward was asked if Manny is a top 10 all time great, he simply replied, "Yes, with all that Manny has accomplished and the fact that he has fought the best multiple times, he has to be considered an all time great." Honestly? I don't even understand why the question needs to be asked anymore. When will it just be a known thing? What else does Pacquiao have to do, knockout Wladimir Klitschko?


We can go on and on and on with other ATG who thinks Manny is up there. Who cares if Floyd or Manny is in front. We were lucky to see those 2 ATG be the best of our generations. Wise up people and stop thinking with your heart

[hugh grant]

You think ATG's would even think about fighting someone like Khan?

Hes a borderline HOFer and not a ATG in my book

Same with Calzaghe

Yes, i think the thread starter was trolling, and its really aimed at Floyd and is Floyd an ATG? Because i also have heard some people think FLoyd is an ATG and many are not sure that he is.

Floyd has ATG skills but people are still not sold on Floyds resume. To be an ATG you need to have dared to be an ATG.
He fights JMM and bloats him up, but wont dare bloat himself up.
Something not right there.

[The Big Dunn]

Yes, i think the thread starter was trolling, and its really aimed at Floyd and is Floyd an ATG? Because i also have heard some people think FLoyd is an ATG and many are not sure that he is.

Floyd has ATG skills but people are still not sold on Floyds resume. To be an ATG you need to have dared to be an ATG.
He fights JMM and bloats him up, but wont dare bloat himself up.
Something not right there.

tue. he never fought someone much bigger than him say at 154 lbs or so.

You would have to say floyd is an ATG. he's beaten 4 guys-Hatton, Canelo, SHane, ODH- you said he wouldn't fight and can't beat.

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

This thread can easily be zipped up:

Neither Pac nor Floyd are ATG.

ATG means you are among the finest, most accomplished, most tested fighters EVER.

Because of promotional wars, watered down divisions, multiple belts, division jumping, etc its nearly impossible to find a current fighter that can be considered an ATG. It may or may not be their fault but the proper ATGs have faced the best multiple times throughout their career. You simply cannot say that about Manny and Floyd.

Doug Fisher has written some good pieces about this.