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  • New England
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    #41
    Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
    I'd like to reach a point where I'm comfortable saying who's the best at 154, especially in the most stressful division in boxing, 154. From Lara-Paul Williams, to Lara-Molina, to Kirkland-Molina, to Vanes-Lara...lets be real now

    As awful as it'll be, no other fight will determine this other than this rematch.


    ok, let's say they rematch. then what? we have to look at this thing in terms of it's context in a 2014 154 lb division. i like the word "stressful"

    the winner isn't fighting mayweather either way. canelo's people won't put him in there with lara, certainly not because of a win over molina.

    if molina wins he may get a canelo fight, so i guess that there is a little value in that. the problem with molina canelo would be the judges.

    these two are the B side. they're going to fight other people as opponents, and the rematch will not be missed.

    now, if they do more than beat ishe smith and austin trout, and in 2015 they're still at or around the top three contenders, then we can maybe think about this awful rematch.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #42
      Originally posted by New England
      ok, let's say they rematch. then what? we have to look at this thing in terms of it's context in a 2014 154 lb division. i like the word "stressful"

      the winner isn't fighting mayweather either way. canelo's people won't put him in there with lara, certainly not because of a win over molina.

      if molina wins he may get a canelo fight, so i guess that there is a little value in that. the problem with molina canelo would be the judges.

      these two are the B side. they're going to fight other people as opponents, and the rematch will not be missed.

      now, if they do more than beat ishe smith and austin trout, and in 2015 they're still at or around the top three contenders, then we can maybe think about this awful rematch.
      Mayweather isn't a 154, I don't see him ever going back up, so when determining the best at 154 I sort of leave him out of it. Canelo called for Trout even though you can clearly see Oscar didn't like his chances but it was him who pushed for it, and he more than likely will do the same granted Lara keeps winning.

      I know it's difficult for some to see that because we're in an era where it's fashionable to question ones willingness to challenge himself but it's gonna happen. I see it more as a matter of when, GB won't stand in Canelo's way. Only reason Canelo doesn't fight him is if more lucrative fights present themselves, Cotto or Martinez.

      This fight determines the best at 154, can't see it any other way.

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        #43
        Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
        No mention of Lara vs Molina from fat dan.

        Omar and Arakawa having different bouts. Interesting. Seems like the winner of those two fights will face off.

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          #44
          Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
          No mention of Lara vs Molina from fat dan.

          Fat dan just gets fed (excuse the pun )info by the promoters who lie to him anyway so they can gauge public opinion on certain fights.

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            #45
            maybe on Floyds undercard then?????????????????

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              #46
              Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
              Mayweather isn't a 154, I don't see him ever going back up, so when determining the best at 154 I sort of leave him out of it. Canelo called for Trout even though you can clearly see Oscar didn't like his chances but it was him who pushed for it, and he more than likely will do the same granted Lara keeps winning.

              I know it's difficult for some to see that because we're in an era where it's fashionable to question ones willingness to challenge himself but it's gonna happen. I see it more as a matter of when, GB won't stand in Canelo's way. Only reason Canelo doesn't fight him is if more lucrative fights present themselves, Cotto or Martinez.

              This fight determines the best at 154, can't see it any other way.


              if he's not on ppv with cotto or martinez, canelo will be given opponents who mesh well with him stylistically. angulo lost to lara and they gave him the fight.

              it's hard to guage alvarez' popularity post mayweather, and GBP's longterm outlook for him, but i'd be absolutely shocked if GBP values him so little that they allow him to fight lara. molina may get a shot at canelo without even rematching lara.

              judges would need nuts the size of g****fruits to rob lara against canelo. alvarez won't win a round. lara is the style nightmare that we all thought trout would be [i picked alvarez to beat trout in spite of that, actually.] lara actually uses the ring, and is an accurate puncher who can land the left hand on the way out. he also has enough power to impress judges.

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                #47
                Originally posted by New England
                if he's not on ppv with cotto or martinez, canelo will be given opponents who mesh well with him stylistically. angulo lost to lara and they gave him the fight.

                it's hard to guage alvarez' popularity post mayweather, and GBP's longterm outlook for him, but i'd be absolutely shocked if GBP values him so little that they allow him to fight lara. molina may get a shot at canelo without even rematching lara.

                judges would need nuts the size of g****fruits to rob lara against canelo. alvarez won't win a round. lara is the style nightmare that we all thought trout would be [i picked alvarez to beat trout in spite of that, actually.] lara actually uses the ring, and is an accurate puncher who can land the left hand on the way out. he also has enough power to impress judges.
                I'd lean towards Canelo to win that. Lara doesn't get under punches, rather than get under Molina or Angulo's punches and move into punching angle, he allowed those two to beat on him. He also lowers his right hand when he backs out (Watch for that) and he doesn't mix up his attack or go to the body as much as he should. Lara's defense is mainly his feet, he doesn't block well and I truly believe Canelo will expose all that. After the Mayweather fight, I expect Canelo to be more of an aggressor now but we'll see.

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