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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    #31
    Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
    It's an important fight for the division, it has to happen.
    That, plus the controversy that ensued. It was a weak fight, but I'd like to see this thing put to rest forever.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #32
      Originally posted by New England
      it is erislandy lara and carlos molina. you're seriously inflating their value as fighters. molina is coming off of a win over ishe smith for f#cks sake. prior to that he beat corey spinks and some guy named frias, both on FNF.


      at the very least, it doesn't necessitate a spot on TV. you can't expect these networks to put on rematches of such awful fights, that will again be absolutely awful fights.
      I didn't enjoy it either, I had Molina winning but if we're ever gonna establish the who's who of the division, then it's got to happen.

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      • bojangles1987
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        #33
        Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
        I meant to say, looks like they have no intentions of making Lara-Canelo. Or else they would put it on the undercard?



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        I'm sure Golden Boy is hoping Molina gets the nod so they can bury Lara and forget about him.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #34
          Originally posted by New England
          it is erislandy lara and carlos molina. you're seriously inflating their value as fighters. molina is coming off of a win over ishe smith for f#cks sake. prior to that he beat corey spinks and some guy named frias, both on FNF.


          at the very least, it doesn't necessitate a spot on TV. you can't expect these networks to put on rematches of such awful fights, that will again be absolutely awful fights.
          Outside Mayweather, Lara and Molina have the best resumes at junior middleweight. They should be ranked 1 and 2 right now. Winner without a doubt should be the top ranked fighter at 154.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
            I didn't enjoy it either, I had Molina winning but if we're ever gonna establish the who's who of the division, then it's got to happen.


            the who's who of the division can be established without this rematch. it would be something different if it weren't a rematch of an awful fight. it's certainly not immediately necessitated off of an underwhelming W over ishe smith, and a UD over austin trout.

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              #36
              Originally posted by New England
              the who's who of the division can be established without this rematch. it would be something different if it weren't a rematch of an awful fight. it's certainly not immediately necessitated off of an underwhelming W over ishe smith, and a UD over austin trout.
              I'd like to reach a point where I'm comfortable saying who's the best at 154, especially in the most stressful division in boxing, 154. From Lara-Paul Williams, to Lara-Molina, to Kirkland-Molina, to Vanes-Lara...lets be real now

              As awful as it'll be, no other fight will determine this other than this rematch.

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                #37
                Originally posted by bojangles1987
                Outside Mayweather, Lara and Molina have the best resumes at junior middleweight. They should be ranked 1 and 2 right now. Winner without a doubt should be the top ranked fighter at 154.

                molina's last fight was a win over ishe smith, who is one of the worst "world champions" of all time. lara beat a fighter coming off of a loss. i'm not sure all of you guys realize just what it means for a once undefeated fighter to come off of a loss against a cuban southpaw. prior to that he was dropped twice and spent some time getting beat up by alfredo angulo. before that he was underwhelming against martyrosian and freddie hernandez.

                you're acting like they're on runs that necessitate a fight to determine who fights floyd mayweather, and they aren't.


                carlos molina hasn't done enough to demand anything. his style can hardly be called boxing.

                lara is a good boxer, but he's comically overrated after the trout fight. trout's popularly in particular is a backlash against alvarez.

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                • bojangles1987
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by New England
                  molina's last fight was a win over ishe smith, who is one of the worst "world champions" of all time. lara beat a fighter coming off of a loss. i'm not sure all of you guys realize just what it means for a once undefeated fighter to come off of a loss against a cuban southpaw. prior to that he was dropped twice and spent some time getting beat up by alfredo angulo. before that he was underwhelming against martyrosian and freddie hernandez.

                  you're acting like they're on runs that necessitate a fight to determine who fights floyd mayweather, and they aren't.


                  carlos molina hasn't done enough to demand anything. his style can hardly be called boxing.

                  lara is a good boxer, but he's comically overrated after the trout fight. trout's popularly in particular is a backlash against alvarez.
                  Molina and Lara have each other, but besides that fight:

                  Molina beat Cintron when it still mattered, was screwed against Kirkland, and beat Smith.

                  Lara beat Williams, got screwed against Vanes, beat Angulo, and beat Trout.

                  That's better than anyone else at 154 besides Mayweather, if you count him. Who else in the division compares to them? The ginger with his one questionable win against someone that matters? It's horribly unfair to talk these two down and then talk up anyone else at 154, because they are the only ones fighting anyone in the division, and doing well for themselves in the process.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                    I would rather Molina to be blackballed from tv fights since what he does shouldn't qualify as boxing.
                    And people complain of Rigondeax. Molina is a good wrestler, not a good fighter

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #40
                      England, I'm in agreement with you, especially Molina's style that I do question whether it should be classified as boxing, it's extremely excessive and while Hopkins, Ward and Abril catch a lot of slack on here, they don't lead with clinches. Neither do they hold on to their opponent whilst walking them to a different corner of the ring. That said, he arguably beat Lara, the consensus is that he should have gotten the victory, it needs to happen.

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