Freddie Roach on Fire - Ariza a Cheater -We would love to fight Guerrero

[way2strong]

He also said he was shady, because he would not reveal what he put in Pacquiao's shakes.

could be the same crap rios was drinking who gives a damm it was legal up intill last year or so when a few army pricks decided to consume it while running 5 miles not properly hydrated it is a bodybuilding supp not some over the top PED

[Zano-24]

So let me get this straight... He is practically admitting that Manny was cheating during his fights? Like what the actual ****.

[Bring It On]

****** statements about Ariza, honestly. Those who take this as evidence that Pac is a cheater is obviously Pac-haters though.

But like I said the day this story broke, Rios tested positive for some stimulant (that I think was added to the red list not too long ago). It wasn't AAS, hGh and EPO. Proportions please.

[Slip Stream]

Wow, a pretty revealing interview here with Roach, but I'm not sure if he's asking if Ariza did something shady or is he trying to hide his own culpability? If I'm Pacquiao's trainer and Ariza is giving my guy something I don't know about either he's gone or I'm gone immediately. Roach wants us to believe that Ariza was just sort of floating around doing his own thing and potentially juicing up fighters until the fateful day Roach caught him giving Manny something su****ious? I don't believe that for one second, he could have given Manny something out of Freddie's view if he thought there might be an issue.

Feels like Roach is trying to peel a band aid off slowly as opposed to just ripping it off. I'm sure there will be more revelations in the coming days as the Pacquiao delusion continues to unravel.

[Godsfly]

rios tested positive on the post fight urine test ...all his other tests with VADA came out negative..and as far as i can tell i don't see how whatever he took did much of anything (assuming he took it right before the fight)...the banned substance he was caught for is equivalent to consuming alot of caffeine, no?

again, what roach said doesn't 100% confirm pac took anything illegal ..he is just saying that ariza kept him out of the loop with regards to what he was giving pac....it's shady of course, but it still isn't solid proof that pac without a doubt cheated.....plus he still performed like he usually does.....

WRONG. methylhexaneamine burns fat, gives you energy & is used to mask other drugs (like testosterone) it's commonly found in strength-conditioning powder drinks (look it up) it's not like consuming a lot of caffeine. it's a PED.

now there will never be solid 100% proof that ariza fed pac something dirty but DNA isn't 100% fact ether. it's just that if you have enough compounds that match with another compound they can very well round it off as being 99.9% the case...........the same thing when you're on trial. when you have such undeniable evidence working against you (so much so that even a monkey could see it) you are found guilty.....too much evidence.


now do i believe alex (out of all of the years while working with pac) gave him something dirty? hummmmm yes. in fact i agree with everything roach said about ariza. he was probbly slipping him crap with his drinks within his work outs. the guy is scum........

roach is still an idiot because this is only hurting pac..............

[Fetta]

Team Pac will start back peddling from this soon.

[rayb112]

okay but DMAA was legal while he was working with pacquiao (assuming he ever gave pacquiao this)....and why didn't rios test positive for this during the several other tests with VADA? and rios didn't show any noticeable increase in energy, still looked flabby, etc, etc...in the ring...

again i look to the fact that pacquiao still performed the same, still looked ripped as hell, and passed all the VADA tests.......again what roach said isn't solid proof that pac cheated.....it's still only speculation.....you can't be found guilty off of speculation alone........

Because it was giving to him before the fight that night...Its not a PED but a stimulate that has been banned!!!

[oneon11]

Finally the truth comes from the horse's mouth.....

Roach shuld have kept his moUth closed honestly, he just made Pac look like a cheat

Roach didnt know what was in those Ariza shakes, yet carried on allowing Pac to drink a unknown substance

There you have it, people can slice it anyway they want but the truth is Pacroid was juicing all along and Roach knew it. Hell Roach even participated in allowing other fighters to be put at risk by while this juicer was on some power roids. Pacroid is a cheating SOB and now before the craps hits the fan Roach is trying to come clean. No one who suppose to be a legit trainer in the sport of boxing would allow their fighter to put anything in their system without knowing what it is. And if he thought something was shady a legitimate trainer would have had their fighter tested, that's if he really was concern. But me personally I believe Roach knew full well what dude was giving, now confirmed by Roach juicer Pacroid.
Another Mayweather su****ion that has come full circle with the truth being Floyd was right all along. Pacroid ducked the test because everybody in his camp knew he was juicing. I can't wait until the IRS take everything he has & send this boxing fraud to jail. Once he's locked up he can get all the Bubba juice he can swallow. Damn fraud.......

[Godsfly]

okay but DMAA was legal while he was working with pacquiao (assuming he ever gave pacquiao this)....and why didn't rios test positive for this during the several other tests with VADA? and rios didn't show any noticeable increase in energy, still looked flabby, etc, etc...in the ring...

again i look to the fact that pacquiao still performed the same, still look ripped as hell, and passed all the VADA tests.......again what roach said isn't solid proof that pac cheated.....it's still only speculation.....

dude...you got to get off this immature pac being attacked none sense. no one said that pac himself cheated (or knowingly cheated) what we are saying is that ariza was giving him something.........the drug was banned when he gave it to rios (he knew it was banned) but he still gave it to rios all because he wanted to cheat rios with his weight loss and energy level (but it failed because rios simply lacks the talent to be in there with pac) if ariza will do something like that who's to say that he hasn't used other crap? do you really think ariza only uses the banned substance that he gave to rios? no. the guy is shady all across the board. he's probably very well educated about PEDS and things alike. i remember khan hinting at ariza being shady........


i believe ariza has given pac banned substances & i believe he's done the same with others.

[J The UnBiased]

He also said he was shady, because he would not reveal what he put in Pacquiao's shakes.

he deliberately chose to ignore that