Freddie Roach on Fire - Ariza a Cheater -We would love to fight Guerrero

[ButtScratcher^^]

Another example of not thinking before speaking. Because of extreme dislike to ariza, he had uttered something that might backfire on his own fighter that was handled by ariza previously.

Of course, a nutritionist will not divulge his ingredients, it's a standard operating procedure for them, or else he will become easily replaceable and lose that job in the future especially if one does not have; -- 'people pleasing talent' that others luckily have.

But the way freddie told the story, it appeared something shady had happened previously and this 'little cute story' might come back big and bite his own fighter in the ass.

[Los Zetas]

this is pretty damning. but not surprising. and then ppl who say its not a confimation of pac cheating, true. but look at it this way, if there was nothing suspect in those shakes, why the hell wouldn't he tell roach what it was? and ariza even said so himself, "pac doesnt know what i put in his shakes."

Ariza also said it's legal...

[WatchForTheHook]

Pacquiaos nver failed a drug test plain n simple. Look at the tuys that have been getting caught...found through piss more than blood. Why isnt there a blow up on those 2 guys from mayweathers camp for testing positive?
Oooo thats right cuz they not on top of sport n with may so lets just brush it off n blame pac, marquez etc.

But that statement from roach is not a good look for pac. Even though ariza now seems like a two face p.o.s. like ellie sechback

Weak Argument Shane Mosley Never Failed a Test Either.......

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[Slip Stream]

Roaches words (if true) utterly undermine the myth of Manny Pacquiao and confirm everything Floyd has been saying from the sidelines. The fact that Floyd's been insisting on OST for his fights suggests a sport that's rampant with cheating and that has poor safeguards to catch potential violators. I think this also gets to the genius of Bob Arum because he marketed Manny as a paragon of virtue and someone so morally clean that to question him was an act tantamount to heresy. (I don't believe the defamation lawsuit was Manny's idea.)

Even the Pacquiao obsessed must admit this interview with Freddie is somewhat disheartening.

[SCEN3RY]

lol, only freddie could say 'Ariza is shady' and then 'Fortune sued me for defamation of character, and I had to pay him some money, and I was a little bitter for a while.'

[AgainstTheRopes]

Roaches words (if true) utterly undermine the myth of Manny Pacquiao and confirm everything Floyd has been saying from the sidelines. The fact that Floyd's been insisting on OST for his fights suggests a sport that's rampant with cheating and that has poor safeguards to catch potential violators. I think this also gets to the genius of Bob Arum because he marketed Manny as a paragon of virtue and someone so morally clean that to question him was an act tantamount to heresy. (I don't believe the defamation lawsuit was Manny's idea.)

Even the Pacquiao obsessed must admit this interview with Freddie is somewhat disheartening.

We dont know what he gave Pacquiao. It could have very well been the samething he gave Rios, which when he worked with Pacquiao was legal. It does raise flags but nothing definitive.

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We dont know what he gave Pacquiao. It could have very well been the samething he gave Rios, which when he worked with Pacquiao was legal. It does raise flags but nothing definitive.

It doesn't have to be definitive to be damning. Roaches/Roach's words raise so many question its difficult to know where to begin. Something is rotten in the State of Denmark my friend, its bloody ripe......

[SCEN3RY]

I think Freddie may be reaching for something in attempt to incriminate the guy that kicked him.

I like Freddie, and I'm no big fan of Ariza, but he just sounds a little bitter when it comes to Alex. Ariza could be a cheat, sure, but I think Ariza's smart enough to just say, "it's a protein shake" or "it's jack3d." Why would he respond with "I can't say what's in the drink, I'm not going to tell you." Liars lie, they don't mystify.

[takingaim]

So basically Roach just admitted that Pac could well have been on something whilst Ariza was working with them.

[Nay_Sayer]

he just basically said that pac was taking drugs (what in the entire ****)

freddie has finally done it now............

Lol.

The **** has hit the fan...