Roach says bradley wants too much money and might run all night

[The Big Dunn]

Stop it with the business sense, your hurting Dirk ****** azz logic..

Its not what you're worth its what you can get with the negotiating leverage you have.

Tim and cotto have made themselves more valuable as opponents than the would be as headliners.

[brick wall]

Stop it with the business sense, your hurting Dirk ****** azz logic..

that's what bradley needs so he would realize that if you don't sell you don't get that much.

[-MEGA-]

Are you trolling or actually this deluded?

Deluded?? C'mon guy your so blinded by hate its ridiculous...

[The Big Dunn]

Bradley-Pacquiao II would sell more than Ruslan, yes. But marginally more. Not $3-4m added onto Bradley's purse more.

Pacquiao is pretty much selling this PPV on his own regardless.

Dirk its more than that. Manny/ruslan manny has to do the bulk of the heavy lifting to sell the fight. Very hard given his political career and choopy english.

Manny v tim tim can do more to sell the fight with simply with his ability to go on radio and cable without the need for an interpreter.

we agree-tim is not in any way the draw. but -taking a page from floyd v ODH-the opponent can often "sell" the fight as well or better than the main draw.

Tim has far more value than ruslan-especially if the fight is in Vegas.

As for marginally- $70 x 100k-200k units is $7-14 mil more. that aint marginal.

[BuckToothed]

I don't,and tbh I don't trust or believe Roach..I believe Roach is nego through the media..A thing he's often done..

Anyway Bradley has earned about 8mill imo..I believe that's around the number he'd ask for..I also believe he should get about 8mill for this fight..[Bradley get's 8 Pac get's about 20-25..Sounds very fair..

Everything else Roach has said makes him sound like a complete fool..

Thanks, I actually said in the other thread that he is worth up to $10m to Pac, just to get it over with.

I don't agree with anyone thinking that this rematch won't sell. Maybe a year ago it won't, but with everything since, it'll sell and it'll sell better than the first fight.

[Ray*]

I don't believe that especially coming from Roach, more like he wants another face first no defence fighter that would guarantee or make Pac have an easier day out.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Dirk its more than that. Manny/ruslan manny has to sell the fight. Very hard given his political career and choopy english.

Manny v tim tim can do more to sell the fight with simply with his ability to go on radio and cable without the need for a interpreter.

we agree-tim is not in any way the draw. but -taking a page from floyd v ODH-the opponent can often "sell" the fight as well or better than the main draw.

Tim has far more value than ruslan-especially if the fight is in Vegas.

Bradley is not Mayweather and he is not Cotto either. You are reaching with these comparisons. If Bradley was such a great talker/seller, why did the first fight not surpass Josh Clottey status?

I think they also care more about Pacquiao looking good more than the fight selling. The difference between what the two fights would do on PPV would be minimal. But Pacquiao is guaranteed to look awesome against Ruslan. Whereas Bradley will stink the place out like the last two times he's been on PPV.

[brick wall]

Dirk its more than that. Manny/ruslan manny has to do the bulk of the heavy lifting to sell the fight. Very hard given his political career and choopy english.

Manny v tim tim can do more to sell the fight with simply with his ability to go on radio and cable without the need for an interpreter.

we agree-tim is not in any way the draw. but -taking a page from floyd v ODH-the opponent can often "sell" the fight as well or better than the main draw.

Tim has far more value than ruslan-especially if the fight is in Vegas.

As for marginally- $70 x 100k-200k units is $7-14 mil more. that aint marginal.

and half of that goes to cable companies. what about hbo's share? top rank? you'll be lucky to have $3 million left for the fighters to share. use your brain no matter how small it is.

[The Big Dunn]

Bradley is not Mayweather and he is not Cotto either. You are reaching with these comparisons. If Bradley was such a great talker/seller, why did the first fight not surpass Josh Clottey status?

I think they also care more about Pacquiao looking good more than the fight selling. The difference between what the two fights would do on PPV would be minimal. But Pacquiao is guaranteed to look awesome against Ruslan. Whereas Bradley will stink the place out like the last two times he's been on PPV.

I'm not saying they are equal. I agree with you on tim-but be honest-did anyone think floyd would shine on 24/7 the way he did.

The point is Tim likely sells more than ruslan. Tim is trying to leverage that. I'm not saying he is right or wrong, I just think its the smart play right now. I'd prefer the ruslan fight myself because its fresh.

Excellent point the 2nd paragraph. Manny in theory would look better against ruslan-unless he boxes to a win like the rios fight. Ultimately the public could hold that performance against manny.

I agree 100% that tim isn't a draw. But manny can't avenge his robbery against anybody else. So Tim's worth isn't so simple to determine.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Oh God.

Bradley fans

You have got to be kidding, I've heard Khan fans act as if Prescott and Peterson don't own a part of Khans ass..That's the real joke..