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Vitali Klitschko or Wladimir Klitschko?
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Originally posted by Weltschmerz View PostI'm interested in hearing why you think Wlad is by far the better boxer? IMO, they are both black belts.
Wladimir is indeed the better boxer of the two and he's certainly more talented than big Vit. But he's not a born fighter like his big brother.
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Originally posted by Szef99 View PostGreat footwork, much better speed, one of the best (if not the best) jab in the history of boxing, superior power, better distance control.
Wladimir is indeed the better boxer of the two and he's certainly more talented than big Vit. But he's not a born fighter like his big brother.
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Originally posted by Szef99 View PostLook who's talking, one of the biggest Klitschko haters on NSB
Every time someone mentions Klitschko and Lewis in the sentence our Princess Leia is there to defend her hero.
"prime for prime, very difficult to say.
Vitali would be a very bad match for Wlad. But it would be an epic war, I am sure of that. Maybe even better than Lennox-Vitali."
Talking about idiotic.
I am so glad I put that patient on my ignore list. He is the waste of space and time... Feeling sorry for him.
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Originally posted by Szef99 View PostGreat footwork, much better speed, one of the best (if not the best) jab in the history of boxing, superior power, better distance control.
Wladimir is indeed the better boxer of the two and he's certainly more talented than big Vit. But he's not a born fighter like his big brother.Originally posted by Weltschmerz View PostI agree that Wlad has mastered his style and craft to perfection (courtesy of Steward), and that he technically bests Vitali in some aspects with crisper punches, speed, etc. But if you study Vitali closely, he's actually a highly gifted technical fighter too; mostly, we don't even notice this during ring action, due to Vitali's awkward, unorthodox style, and the fine subtleties of his ring work.
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Originally posted by Weltschmerz View PostI agree that Wlad has mastered his style and craft to perfection (courtesy of Steward), and that he technically bests Vitali in some aspects with crisper punches, speed, etc. But if you study Vitali closely, he's actually a highly gifted technical fighter too; mostly, we don't even notice this during ring action, due to Vitali's awkward, unorthodox style, and the fine subtleties of his ring work.
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Originally posted by Simurgh View PostMy only post on this thread:
"prime for prime, very difficult to say.
Vitali would be a very bad match for Wlad. But it would be an epic war, I am sure of that. Maybe even better than Lennox-Vitali."
Talking about idiotic.
I am so glad I put that patient on my ignore list. He is the waste of space and time... Feeling sorry for him.
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Originally posted by Simurgh View PostMy only post on this thread:
"prime for prime, very difficult to say.
Vitali would be a very bad match for Wlad. But it would be an epic war, I am sure of that. Maybe even better than Lennox-Vitali."
Talking about idiotic.
I am so glad I put that patient on my ignore list. He is the waste of space and time... Feeling sorry for him.
You can only speak about him with song on your lips and love in your heart.
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Originally posted by Someone88 View PostWhy do you think that? If you were talking about Ali ok, but I don't see why Wladimir can't be ahead of Lewis especially if he keeps winning.
That's the first thing. When Lewis had a poor defense, he beat the lineal champion of the world. When Wlad has a poor defense, he beats someone who's not even ranked in the top 25.
The tomato cans Wlad has been fighting - and they are tomato cans mostly - would not even be known in the 90s. The Pianetas, Wach's, Mormeck's, Thompson's, Sanders, Ibragimov, McCline, Barrett, Peter - hell even Povetkin - some of them weren't even the best of a bad bunch. No head movement, no ferocity, no excitement or style, no footwork, they are out of shape and overweight, don't fight each other... The list goes on and on. This era is starting to turn with some decent fighters coming up - but it truly has been a sad state of affairs since Lewis retired with belts changing hands every other week from guys who would be journeymen in the previous era.
Wlad would be a force in any era, i'm not dis*****g that. But he's missing the guys that could elevate his status. He has beaten a few good fighters like Byrd, Haye and Chagaev. But imagine what people would think of those defenses should Lewis had fought them in his prime? Jesus.
Lewis > Wlad - and Wlad can keep winning.Last edited by LacedUp; 01-08-2014, 07:31 AM.
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