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  • BUNGALOWS
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    #71
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    interesting point but why would manny beating tim skyrocket given what happened in the first fight? the same people already factored in manny beating tim but being robbed into their rankings.

    The revenge angle would make sense if most fans thought manny had actually lost. WHo is he getting revenge on-CJ ross and duane ford?

    I think your point about "taking unnecessary punishment" could be the reason most manny fans are arguing for a tim rematch now.
    You'd be surprised at how many people actually think Tim won, and if you went on Youtube, and saw all those videos of, "HBO's commentary team nut riding Manny, and giving him more credit for non landed shots", you'd believe that they were serious.

    And I've also heard plenty of people say, "Tim was winning the later rounds. If he never turned his ankle, imagine what happened. I think he learned from his adjustments in the later rounds, and beats Manny from round 1 in a rematch."

    Obviously, I've heard everything, and re watched the fight. Manny flat out won, by a good 4-5 rounds, and I was being conscious of the fact that HBO might have been ******* with the shots Manny was landing.

    Still, Bradley had a FOTY candidate with Ruslan, and UD'd the guy that KOd Pacquiao. He has more momentum than any WW today, other than Floyd.

    This fight makes complete sense. Pac is that much older, and Bradley is in his prime as we speak. Can Bradley adjust, and out box Pac this time? Does Pac still have it in him to repeat his first performance, and maybe get a KO?

    It's an intriguing match up.

    And yes. Fighting Ruslan, not only gets him nowhere, but it also shortens his career that much more, while not getting the recognition of beating a P4P caliber fighter.

    I don't want Manny spending 4-6 months in training camp, sparring God knows how many rounds, then beating Ruslan, and wasting that much more time off his career. Makes no sense.

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    • Nay_Sayer
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      #72
      Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
      Obviously, I've heard everything, and re watched the fight. Manny flat out won, by a good 4-5 rounds, and I was being conscious of the fact that HBO might have been ******* with the shots Manny was landing.
      LOL..

      Obviously YDKSAB...

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        #73
        Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
        You'd be surprised at how many people actually think Tim won, and if you went on Youtube, and saw all those videos of, "HBO's commentary team nut riding Manny, and giving him more credit for non landed shots", you'd believe that they were serious.

        And I've also heard plenty of people say, "Tim was winning the later rounds. If he never turned his ankle, imagine what happened. I think he learned from his adjustments in the later rounds, and beats Manny from round 1 in a rematch."

        Obviously, I've heard everything, and re watched the fight. Manny flat out won, by a good 4-5 rounds, and I was being conscious of the fact that HBO might have been ******* with the shots Manny was landing.

        Still, Bradley had a FOTY candidate with Ruslan, and UD'd the guy that KOd Pacquiao. He has more momentum than any WW today, other than Floyd.

        This fight makes complete sense. Pac is that much older, and Bradley is in his prime as we speak. Can Bradley adjust, and out box Pac this time? Does Pac still have it in him to repeat his first performance, and maybe get a KO?

        It's an intriguing match up.

        And yes. Fighting Ruslan, not only gets him nowhere, but it also shortens his career that much more, while not getting the recognition of beating a P4P caliber fighter.

        I don't want Manny spending 4-6 months in training camp, sparring God knows how many rounds, then beating Ruslan, and wasting that much more time off his career. Makes no sense.
        The funny thing is bradley was doing better when he hurt his ankle.

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        • brick wall
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          #74
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Niether fight elevates manny if he wins. Most fans believe he beat Tim and beat him by a wide margin. The judges poor scoring doesn't change what happened in the ring.

          My preference is to see a fight I haven't seen.

          lol stop pretending you flaming floyd fanboy. pac fights are not for you and you never buy them.

          bradley is the highest rated fighter pac could fight right now at welterweight so why is that not an attractive matchup to anyone? as if rematches is not a common thing in boxing. they already fought but pac got robbed so a rematch should happen. most posters here including floyd fans (except your dumbass) want the rematch to happen.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #75
            Originally posted by BUNGALOWS
            You'd be surprised at how many people actually think Tim won, and if you went on Youtube, and saw all those videos of, "HBO's commentary team nut riding Manny, and giving him more credit for non landed shots", you'd believe that they were serious.

            And I've also heard plenty of people say, "Tim was winning the later rounds. If he never turned his ankle, imagine what happened. I think he learned from his adjustments in the later rounds, and beats Manny from round 1 in a rematch."

            Obviously, I've heard everything, and re watched the fight. Manny flat out won, by a good 4-5 rounds, and I was being conscious of the fact that HBO might have been ******* with the shots Manny was landing.

            Still, Bradley had a FOTY candidate with Ruslan, and UD'd the guy that KOd Pacquiao. He has more momentum than any WW today, other than Floyd.

            This fight makes complete sense. Pac is that much older, and Bradley is in his prime as we speak. Can Bradley adjust, and out box Pac this time? Does Pac still have it in him to repeat his first performance, and maybe get a KO?

            It's an intriguing match up.

            And yes. Fighting Ruslan, not only gets him nowhere, but it also shortens his career that much more, while not getting the recognition of beating a P4P caliber fighter.

            I don't want Manny spending 4-6 months in training camp, sparring God knows how many rounds, then beating Ruslan, and wasting that much more time off his career. Makes no sense.
            Ok. I may not agree but you made fair points. I still don't like to see unwarranted rematches. we agree-manny won at least 8 rounds.

            I think if Manny boxed the way he did against rios he could nuetralize Ruslan-while that would be fine with me I think it wouldn't please the "excitement" crowd.

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            • Bermuda
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              #76
              Originally posted by - Righteous -
              Pacquiao didn't take Bradley seriously the first time and still beat him.

              There's no danger of pac taking it easy this time.
              nah i think pac is going to take the rematch more seriously this time around...i expect another clear win for pac, but this time he actually gets the official decision.

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              • HeroBando
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                #77
                Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
                LOL..

                Obviously YDKSAB...
                Oh yeah? That's actually closer than the average press score, 117-111. Jeff Mayweather and Danny Garcia both scored it 10-2, but they don't know **** about boxing, right?

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                • techliam
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  interesting point but why would manny beating tim skyrocket given what happened in the first fight? the same people already factored in manny beating tim but being robbed into their rankings.

                  The revenge angle would make sense if most fans thought manny had actually lost. WHo is he getting revenge on-CJ ross and duane ford?

                  I think your point about "taking unnecessary punishment" could be the reason most manny fans are arguing for a tim rematch now.
                  Manny beating a legitimately recognised p4p no.3 wouldn't skyrocket him? It wouldnt put him past Ward, but it'll regain a lot of traction he lost at least in my view

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                  • DARKSEID
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                    #79
                    Pacquiao is just a better boxer than Bradley in every way. I can't see him losing.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by techliam
                      Manny beating a legitimately recognised p4p no.3 wouldn't skyrocket him? It wouldnt put him past Ward, but it'll regain a lot of traction he lost at least in my view
                      Not in this case because most think he beat Tim by a wide margin and then got robbed. If this were another fighter he hadn't fouht or had truly lost to I'd agree with you.

                      Manny lost nothing in the Tim fight except rounds 10-12. Anything manny lost can only be gained back by beating JMM( which IMO is why JMM is holding out to make as much as he can.)

                      I would just prefer a fresh fight that I haven't seen before.

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