Why does Martinez have to be less than 100% for Cotto to win?

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  • Iceta Lives
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    #101
    If an out of prime Mosley, Judah coming off two losses, Clottey are your best wins then I have a hard time even figuring out why that is HOF worthy unless you count the fact that Gatti is in. Lol

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #102
      It is simple Cotto is not a middleweight and Martinez is a very good middleweight not some schlep. Cotto is a good offensive boxer but dude is going to get hit, he always gets tagged and against a bigger man that is not a good trait.

      Plus to even entertain the idea that Cotto could keep him off, he would if Martinez was at his best require a ton of motion and effort. In the fights where Cotto had to exert a ton of effort to keep up he folded at some point. I don't see how a healthy Martinez does not force him out of his optimum activity level, which is always key to Cotto's success.


      If Martinez is unhealthy though some of those things could change and Cotto might be able to win depending on how far Martinez has slipped.

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      • Da Boxer
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        #103
        ...because they will not give Cotto his due when he wins. Haters will attempt to take away from his victory claiming that Sergio was not 100%, and all sort of excuses just because they want to impose their nationalistic views and spread thier hate like the cucarachas! 98% of all Cotto haters are of one nationality. They know who they are and we know they will try to do.

        King Cotto will be ready and will win this fight!

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          #104
          Originally posted by Da Boxer
          ...because they will not give Cotto his due when he wins. Haters will attempt to take away from his victory claiming that Sergio was not 100%, and all sort of excuses just because they want to impose their nationalistic views and spread thier hate like the cucarachas! 98% of all Cotto haters are of one nationality. They know who they are and we know they will try to do.

          King Cotto will be ready and will win this fight!
          The "haters" in this thread, are of many nationalities.

          Cotto is getting his just due. Hes the highest paid gatekeeper.

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            #105
            Originally posted by Da Boxer
            98% of all Cotto haters are of one nationality.

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              #106
              Originally posted by El Angel
              All I keep reading is "Cotto can win if Sergio isn't 100%." That's BS IMO. Cotto has the skills to hang with a healthy Sergio and beat him. I can't be the only one who thinks that.
              You are one of the few, why do you think that? I don't understand.

              Martinez is taller, longer reach, bigger, stronger, hits harder, quicker, better footwork and sharper reflexes, with a better chin too (keeping in mind I'm talking about a Martinez who can come back from surgery fully healed at back at his best or close to it).

              Cotto was a terrific fighter at 140-147 and had an ok run at 154. But he doesn't hit hard enough at the higher weights to hurt any of the premier fighters, especially not someone who has taken punches from guys like Pavlik and Chavez and won.

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                #107
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                You are one of the few, why do you think that? I don't understand.

                Martinez is taller, longer reach, bigger, stronger, hits harder, quicker, better footwork and sharper reflexes, with a better chin too (keeping in mind I'm talking about a Martinez who can come back from surgery fully healed at back at his best or close to it).

                Cotto was a terrific fighter at 140-147 and had an ok run at 154. But he doesn't hit hard enough at the higher weights to hurt any of the premier fighters, especially not someone who has taken punches from guys like Pavlik and Chavez and won.
                ... You're talking about a Martinez we don't even know there will be anymore...
                (didn't even entered a boxing gym yet...)

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                • TOBYLEE1
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                  #108
                  Sergio is naturally bigger, faster and has good stamina. He also hits hard and has a good chin. He has been tested by Cintron, Williams and Pavlik and has shown that he can hang with punchers and high volume fighters.

                  On top of all of that he is a lefty. Look how Cotto lost to Trout who has less punching out put and power

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                    #109
                    A prime martinez knocks out cotto no question. In fact it could end up being a mismatch. If they do fight now i still think martinez wins but theres a chance the age and injuries catch up with him and cotto does work.

                    But ya the martinez that fought williams, pavlik, barker, macklin...etc KOs cotto inside 10.

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                    • ELPacman
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                      #110
                      I think Cotto can put up a good fight against Martinez but stylistically, Martinez's size may be an issue for Cotto and the work rate Martinez sets along with his quick shots might bother Cotto. Should be a great fight to watch either way. Hope it happens!

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