If Muhammad Ali was in his prime today, would he be a dominant force in his division?

[JAB5239]

hweightblogger maybe?

They're both cut from the same cloth, trying to down play other era's and greats to make this weak one look better to suit their obvious agenda. I'm just surprised the mods have let this go on so long, its a clear bait thread and should be deleted.

[ironmt]

Do you guys think Ali could have taken Rigondeaux at a 140 lbs catchweight? Hell, if Ali had a sex change would he be able to beat Laila?

I think both of these fights are a toss up although Rigondeaux would most likely be the favorite, HBO would be all over this fight.

[SharpBoxer]

Werent most of Alis fights fixed btw?

[SlySlickSmooth]

Imagine how much better it would instead of a lunging clinch, he just threw a swift right hand?

But nope..

[uncle pauly]

The Ali of the 70's,..Post Frazier I----would have some challenges with Vitali. Wladimir's chin would be his downfall.

The Ali(Cassius Clay) of the mid to late 60's would have run rough shod over anyone in todays HW division. Way,...way,..way too fast..way too skilled,. Sick Footwork/movement.

I think Prime Lewis would have presented competitiveness with even prime Ali.
I think prime Holyfield would have had some minor success.
I think prime Mike Tyson would have had considerable chances early on(rds 1-5),..


Outside of those guys,..not too many modern era challenges to Ali. He was that good.

[lefthook2daliva]

Its a shame that most boxing experts dont consider Ali a real world champion because he never fought Fighters from the USSR. But like I said it wasnt his fault. He fought the best that was available to him.

Even if Soviet fighters were allowed to turn pro in Ali's era, Ali would still have been a top contendor.

Yes. Eastern Bloc fighters were forbidden to fight the pros from the rest of the world.

The result?

Fighters from behind the Iron Curtain were full grown men , selected and trained from childhood, backed up by the best science available to the Soviet Union at the peak of it's power. They fought amateurs (mostly teens?) in the Olympics every four years.

And failed to dominate.

Your premise is ****.

[JAB5239]

Yes. Eastern Bloc fighters were forbidden to fight the pros from the rest of the world.

The result?

Fighters from behind the Iron Curtain were full grown men , selected and trained from childhood, backed up by the best science available to the Soviet Union at the peak of it's power. They fought amateurs (mostly teens?) in the Olympics every four years.

And failed to dominate.

Your premise is ****.

Dont worry, he wont let the facts get in the way of his agenda or a good troll thread.

[Vadrigar.]

Imagine how much better it would instead of a lunging clinch, he just threw a swift right hand?

But nope..

goodnight Grabimir.

[Ham Porter]

Ali would have done one of his dramatic in-ring collapses just having to stare across the ring from a true beast like Alexander Ustinov. They'd need his customary smelling salts just to revive him for the first bell.

[SharpBoxer]

Why's everyone making out Ali was some puney HW.

In his prime he weighed around 220 and was 6'3" not to mention fast, extremely skilled with an IRON chin.

He'd smoke everyone in the HW division and UD the Kilts.

Nah I doubt Ali's manager would let him fight in the HW division. Probably cruiserweight or LHW.

Ali would definitly have a chance at beating todays smaller HW's like Mike Perez but he could make more money at LHW.