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  • Originally posted by edgarg View Post
    You don't know-and neither does anyone else, really- whether Phoney Phloyd will be making such huge amounts. He's full of fakery. Don't you recall his huge "guarantees", where it was revealed that the "guarantees" were those given by himself to himself....

    Don't you recall his "$32 mill guarantee" which was specifically done so that he could claim the World Record for guarantees, beating out Mike Tyson's LEGITIMATE $31 mill guarantee.

    We know nothing about the Showtime deal except that it was for "up to 6 fights over 30 months". Reporters were speculating that it might be for a total over over $200 mill. But that was only reporter speculating. And apart from that, we know NOTHING, and never will, until a biography is written....and even then it could be wrong or grossly exaggerated.

    Does anyone remember Phoney's $20 mill MMA payment....?? Didn't it turn out to be around $2 mill....? This is SHOW BUSINESS with the P.T. Barnum touch literally plastered all over it.

    I wish you guys who are so keen and partisan wouldget a little logic and common-sense. It would be easier then to communicate intelligibly with you.
    Forbes reports Floyd's earnings homie. And his guarantees are public knowledge through the commission. What we don't know is how much kickback he gets from PPV and gates sales and things like that. I doubt very seriously all of these people are lying on Floyd's behalf.

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    • Originally posted by Boskop View Post
      This fight makes a lot of people mad
      Mayweather by wide UD
      True Amigo, but don't U think LANCE, would rather AVOID the A$$ WHIPPIN???

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      • Originally posted by jbpanama View Post
        ******ity For Free,Unusual, but Hit Queen is the Man (?) with a Plan...
        Sound good. You gone join ya boy Pacb!tch and come punk me out? Or are you gonna pass on the fireworks show?

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        • Originally posted by hitking View Post
          HBO is refusing to work with GBP. So its not a foreign concept. At days end. Whomever you place the blame on for the fight not happening. Recent history dictates that Floyd is i n the driver's seat. So if Pac genuinely wants the fight. He's gonna do what he's gotta do.
          It's a familiar pattern of roadblocking, wonder what's next. And again, it's only Showtime that works with a single promoter, shutting out the rest.

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          • Originally posted by Boskop View Post
            This fight makes a lot of people mad
            Mayweather by wide UD
            What fight??? You actually believe this fight happens?? Too funny.

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            • Originally posted by Tyler_Durden View Post
              Floyd would cut ties with Mayweather Promotions to duck Pacquiao.
              Anything To AVOID that Bad A$$ FLIP, and The Hurt, He Brings!!!

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              • Originally posted by richardt View Post
                What fight??? You actually believe this fight happens?? Too funny.
                We all know Fraud wants No Part of Pac, so whats the real Question???

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                • Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
                  It's a familiar pattern of roadblocking, wonder what's next. And again, it's only Showtime that works with a single promoter, shutting out the rest.
                  You can call it whatever you want homie. But the fact is, I think I've done a fairly solid job for arguing my point that it serves Showtime no purpose to roadblock this fight. Or allow Floyd to roadblock it. I mean, there's a segment of fans that will forever believe that Floyd is ducking the fight. And that's cool. But its not really supported by anything other than like for one fighter and dislike for another. And that causes people to think irrationally. Personally, I think both sides are at fault. But in this particular situation with this statement from the Showtime prez. It doesn't even make rational sense for him to publically support Floyd if he thoughtt Floyd was full of it. They don't owe Floyd anything in terms of loyality. All they owe Floyd is a bunch of money. And they're not getting good return on their investment. And I could be wrong. But I doubt very seriously this guy is willing to allow Floyd to bull**** his company outta money because of a vendetta or simply to save face.

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                  • Originally posted by hitking View Post
                    Forbes reports Floyd's earnings homie. And his guarantees are public knowledge through the commission. What we don't know is how much kickback he gets from PPV and gates sales and things like that. I doubt very seriously all of these people are lying on Floyd's behalf.
                    Forbes just read the news reports and make an educated guess. They do not have the inside information about "self-employed" fighters in a business which even the principals themselves are ignorant-compared to the promoters. Forbes do their stuff especially for Public Companies where they can get registered information. They sometimes go into the innards of a company-with the company's permission of course- and collate whatever information they garner, or are allowed to garner.

                    Show business is the most opaque in the world's history. There are literally hundreds, maybe thousands, of items....like for example, a very successful movie, which have been shown to have made huge losses....ON PAPER.... Boxing is show business with muscles, and we KNOW that it's almost impossible to get the REAL truth about guarantees and eventual money paid out for major fights.

                    If you believe what you read in an internet report of a Forbes side-issue, based on the information given to them mainly by Mayweather, or what they've read in boxing sites, well there's no point in my discussing it further with you. Although I'm sorry to say so because it has been interesting. Mayweather's guarantees have been proven to have been fraudulent. And having Forbes quote say, $100 mill income doesn't mean a thing. They certainly are not going to pay the IRS on Forbes' say-so....... Have sense man.

                    That kind of business is about 10 steps over our heads. At least the heads of most of us.

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                    • Originally posted by hitking View Post
                      You can call it whatever you want homie. But the fact is, I think I've done a fairly solid job for arguing my point that it serves Showtime no purpose to roadblock this fight. Or allow Floyd to roadblock it. I mean, there's a segment of fans that will forever believe that Floyd is ducking the fight. And that's cool. But its not really supported by anything other than like for one fighter and dislike for another. And that causes people to think irrationally. Personally, I think both sides are at fault. But in this particular situation with this statement from the Showtime prez. It doesn't even make rational sense for him to publically support Floyd if he thoughtt Floyd was full of it. They don't owe Floyd anything in terms of loyality. All they owe Floyd is a bunch of money. And they're not getting good return on their investment. And I could be wrong. But I doubt very seriously this guy is willing to allow Floyd to bull**** his company outta money because of a vendetta or simply to save face.
                      Showtime pres is a GBP stooge, haven't you learned that by now? He was an attorney for GBP before hired by Showtime. He made it a GBP house network. He's parroting the GBP party line, what else would you expect?

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