Comments Thread For: Showtime Prez: Mayweather-Pacquiao, Not With Top Rank

[edgarg]

What investment? They're losing money. How does it benefit them to assist Flyd in ducking Pac? Even in "saving face." How does going broke save you face?

They're no going to "go broke". They are a multi-billion dollar corp and subsidiaries of other, bigger multi-billion dollar corps. I was merely speculating as to why Showtime got into the PROMOTIONAL squabble between Golden Balls, Mayweather and Top Rank. My suggestion was merely that -a suggestion, but I DO have some experience of BIG business and I can see that if Mayweather refused this fight, Showtime would be "treading water" whilst another opponent might be sought. They MUST have the option of refusing an opponent, that's elementary. So why not the option of picking one??

We don't know anything, really, about the deal between them and Mayweather. But I'd bet a dollar to a penny, that they have an "out", like the fact that their deal is a "fight by fight" deal. This was NOT advertised, beyond the mere mention. And I can understand why. The whole business, ESPECIALLY SHOW BUSINESS and ENTERTAINMENT is the glitter rather than the substance... THAT'S what sells.

So I can see it as merely a protective business announcement. I could be wrong....or right..I don't care which.

[hitking]

Quit pulling numbers out of your ass. You think Showtime would sign Mayweather up for 6 fights if they knew they had to get 1.5 million buys a fight just to break even?

Well, they loss 12m+ with Floyd-Guerrero doing between 800k-900k. So common sense says. They're gonna need to do a million+ to break even. And somewhere north of that to turn a profit. So whatever number you wanna plug in, do so. Either way, Pac's the only opponent that guarantees them a profit. So it makes no sense for the Showtime president to assist Floyd in ducking him. And anybody that thinks he wuld is a ****in' idiot.

[hitking]

They're no going to "go broke". They are a multi-billion dollar corp and subsidiaries of other, bigger multi-billion dollar corps. I was merely speculating as to why Showtime got into the PROMOTIONAL squabble between Golden Balls, Mayweather and Top Rank. My suggestion was merely that -a suggestion, but I DO have some experience of BIG business and I can see that if Mayweather refused this fight, Showtime would be "treading water" whilst another opponent might be sought. They MUST have the option of refusing an opponent, that's elementary. So why not the option of picking one??

We don't know anything, really, about the deal between them and Mayweather. But I'd bet a dollar to a penny, that they have an "out", like the fact that their deal is a "fight by fight" deal. This was NOT advertised, beyond the mere mention. And I can understand why. The whole business, ESPECIALLY SHOW BUSINESS and ENTERTAINMENT is the glitter rather than the substance... THAT'S what sells.

So I can see it as merely a protective business announcement. I could be wrong....or right..I don't care which.

They're losing money with this Floyd contract. And its fairly obvious that Floyd isn't gonna do moster numbers without the right dance partner. I could be wrong. But I don't think Showtime got in bed with Floyd for the hell of it. So it makes no sense for them to publically assist Floyd in costing them money.

[IMDAZED]

Well, they loss 12m+ with Floyd-Guerrero doing between 800k-900k. So common sense says. They're gonna need to do a million+ to break even. And somewhere north of that to turn a profit. So whatever number you wanna plug in, do so. Either way, Pac's the only opponent that guarantees them a profit. So it makes no sense for the Showtime president to assist Floyd in ducking him. And anybody that thinks he wuld is a ****in' idiot.

I'd love to hear the background on how they lost $12m on that fight.

[jbpanama]

Look at what you're saying though. If Showtime had an ounce of believing that Floyd was the problem. They would have been come out and said it. Floyd probably has to do 1.5m ppv buys for Showtime to turn a profit. Right now, Pac is probably the only guy that can bring that number. So as the president of Showtime, why further assist Floyd in ducking Pac. Which in the article he would be doing. If its gonna cost the company even more money?

Hey Hit Queen, Don't sound like U, want FRAUD to take the Test,
and Fight the Best Fighter of the Generation!!!

But If your on The Great Avoider's Payroll, We Understand.....

[hitking]

I'd love to hear the background on how they lost $12m on that fight.

When the Floyd haters were gloating on here about Floyd-Guerrero tanking, someone posted an article about the loss they took.

[hitking]

Hey Hit Queen, Don't sound like U, want FRAUD to take the Test,
and Fight the Best Fighter of the Generation!!!

But If your on The Great Avoider's Payroll, We Understand.....

Sounds like you want some attention. I'll be at ShoBox in Memphis on Jan 17. And I'll be in NYC for Cotto-Martinez. Feel free to show up. I'll give you all the attention you want.

[jbpanama]

Are you a b!tch. Cause you sound like one. The basis of the contract is that unless Floyd pulls in bigass numbers Showtime is gonna lose their ass. Guerrero tanked. Khan will tank. Maidana will tank. The only fight out there right now that turns Showtime a profit is Floyd-Pac. So why in the name of common sense would the president of Showtime protect Floyd, which is gonna cost his company millions. If you tthink these folks just love Floyd so much they wanna just hand him phat checks for the hell of it. You're the ****in' moron b!tch.

Hey Hit Queen, U Think Lance Roidweather, will stop PUNKING OUT???

[ButtScratcher^^]

Nothing concrete, but I think pac's intention on going to floyd's camp this coming january was to arrange an agreement if floyd would really fight him if he leaves top rank or somehow get temporary independence. Because if it turned out; this is just one of the excuses of floyd, --one from the other as we've witnessed so far over the years, then, pac had not just wasted his precious time(remember this man isn't only a boxer but a congressman and a philanthropist; someone who actually do meaningful activities in his life not wasting it like most of us.) but also would have lost his loyalty to other camp as well. This is terrible pain for a person who believes in honor and loyalty, pain that, coward people would not really understand.

[PAC-BOY]

Hey Hit Queen, Don't sound like U, want FRAUD to take the Test,
and Fight the Best Fighter of the Generation!!!

But If your on The Great Avoider's Payroll, We Understand.....

I was gonna say hes to ****** to be on a pay roll anywhere....but then again he is a fan of a coward! hehehehe heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee