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  • Hougigo
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    #101
    Originally posted by turnedup
    Schaeffer : "No..not with Arum"
    Floyd : "No...not with Arum"
    Ellerbe : "No...not with Arum"
    Espinoza : "No...not with Arum"

    Arum : "We want to make this fight"
    Pacquaio : "I fight whoever they put in front of me"

    The problem is Arum? Why because four people make him the problem? Supposedly he has one star left..you so confident you can beat his guy..beat him and end Top Rank. Like Hopkins did to Don King..I don't understand how people after all of this still want to allow this reasoning as Manny and Bob don't want the fight. Who are the ones saying "NO"? I mean seriously I want this fight as much as the next man but this shhh is just becoming laughable now. To the point I now don't want it to happen at all.
    Pac the only neutral

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    • BIGBOXINGFAN
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      #102
      Originally posted by Cgarcia
      This is what I've been saying when a report came out that Showtime is willing to negotiate the fight with Arum. I said the Showtime exec has to make sure Floyd is agreeable with it. It's ****** to make assumptions if you think you are representing Floyd and assume he's all for it. This is what we're getting now.

      Showtime wants Pac, but Floyd wants none of the superstar.
      Correction.....Floyd doesn't want Bob

      Bob would make millions off that fight something Floyd just can't see himself doing for Bobs bank acct.

      If you had bad blood with a guy would you allow him to make millions off your name?

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      • turnedup
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        #103
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        Keep in mind Arum himself has said he won't work with GBP and Schaeffer calling them names and has done the same with Showtime and Espinoza. Floyd thinks Arum owes him money.

        This is not going on in a vacuum and Arum has burned those bridges, now that he wants something from them you expect those people to want to work with Arum~ C'mon man
        Go to the Archives..Schaeffer started that war of words when GBP was #2 and back then he was more than willing to do business with Arum and it was always ludicrously profitable for all. The moment GBP went #1 as a promoter company in the sport Schaeffer started all that shhh about not wanting to work with Arum...which is massively hypocritical. Arum sits on one side of the table..if the numbers add up to make everyone happy I don't see the issue. Slap each others name all over the banners and the ring and make a fight. When have you ever heard of a business refusing to do actually do business if it's profitable. Arum isn't the one fighting, Arum isn't the one doing the press tour.

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        • al-Xander
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          #104
          Take the test, Pac, and we'll have a fight!

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          • hitking
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            #105
            Originally posted by turnedup
            Schaeffer : "No..not with Arum"
            Floyd : "No...not with Arum"
            Ellerbe : "No...not with Arum"
            Espinoza : "No...not with Arum"

            Arum : "We want to make this fight"
            Pacquaio : "I fight whoever they put in front of me"

            The problem is Arum? Why because four people make him the problem? Supposedly he has one star left..you so confident you can beat his guy..beat him and end Top Rank. Like Hopkins did to Don King..I don't understand how people after all of this still want to allow this reasoning as Manny and Bob don't want the fight. Who are the ones saying "NO"? I mean seriously I want this fight as much as the next man but this shhh is just becoming laughable now. To the point I now don't want it to happen at all.
            What you're failing to realize is that Arum could easily eliminate the problem by accepting a step aside fee. The other parties involved don't wanna work with him. So basically, by being an egomanic, he's preventing the fight from happening.

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            • Deevel916
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              #106
              Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN
              Correction.....Floyd doesn't want Bob

              Bob would make millions off that fight something Floyd just can't see himself doing for Bobs bank acct.

              If you had bad blood with a guy would you allow him to make millions off your name?
              As long as I will be making my 80 - 100mil. I can give 2 shiets what bob makes. Its not as if Floyd is doing bob a favor. That old *** can lose Floyd's net worth at the blackjack table and go home and sleep it off.

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              • turnedup
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                #107
                Originally posted by hougigo
                Pac the only neutral
                Arum and Schaeffer are businessmen who've made a lot of money working together..this is all ego bullshhh has nothing to do with the fighters. I've said this over and over again..Schaeffer wanted Arum's spot and now he's got it and his ego ballooned and he seems to forget all the fights the companies co-promoted without any issue at all. This almost like Sony telling Best Buy we aren't shipping you any PS4's because we don't like you.

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                • BIGBOXINGFAN
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                  #108
                  Originally posted by Deevel916
                  Pacquiao is under contract. Floyd isnt. Its my understanding that Floyd has a pretty good relationship with Todd Deboef which is the president of TR Promotions. If Floyd really wanted this fight he would deal directly with Todd and have it be a TMT Promotion/TR promotion bout. He doesnt need GBP. But to just say that you dont want to make $80 -$100mil just because you dont like an 82yr old man is just ridiculous.
                  Todd Deboef = Carl King.
                  We all know who gets the big checks over at TR.

                  At the end of the day Bob would still make millions off of Floyds name.
                  Floyd is like no...you continue to make money off of Pacquiao but you won't get a penny off any fight with my name attached to it.

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                  • Allmenjoi8
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                    #109
                    If only Pac would of agreed to Olympic style testing we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Foolish pride.

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                    • turnedup
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by hitking
                      What you're failing to realize is that Arum could easily eliminate the problem by accepting a step aside fee. The other parties involved don't wanna work with him. So basically, by being an egomanic, he's preventing the fight from happening.
                      Why should he? If he made the same offer to Schaeffer do you think he'd accept that? No...this is what people fail to understand..why in the world would you want to remove yourself from the biggest fight in boxing history..you'd be a fool to do so. Would you take less for stepping aside from the biggest deal closing of your life? I think not.

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