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  • Originally posted by DoubleMM View Post
    Manny will keep fighting anyone it doesnt matter. GUys with losses. He's done it time and time again and his fanbase or HBO doesn't mind. Because at the end of the day if he wins they still promote Pacquiuao as the guy who can beat Mayweather. Problem is he won't keep winning. Pacquiao is the new MIke Tyson the writing is on the wall. Better cough up that 50 million you owe to Uncle Sam Pacquiao or you're ending up as another loser story!
    I think Manny is still good enough to stay upright against Bradley. Which is all he would have to do to get a decision. I think he's still good enough to outclass a guy like Provodnikov. And if they were to fight again, I'd pick Manny to beat JMM. So Arum's gonna be able to keep Manny wwinning for another year or two. Its basically gonna boil down to how bad Manny wants a Floyd fight. And we'll find out the anser to that within the next 12 months.cause if he re-signs with Arum. It will be a clear sign that a Floyd fight isn't his priority.

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    • Originally posted by hitking View Post
      Showtime ducking Pacquiao.
      showtime and mayweather don't want this fight unless they get all there bullying demands. They would rather duck than fight and risk a broner like loss. Floyd sees something in pac that's risky for his style. Maybe speed, power or being a southpaw. He wants all the money because of the risk.

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      • As for the Mayweather vs Pacquiao great debate. All you have to do is find out who keeps adding obstacles in order for the fight to get made. It’s Floyd. It’s really that simple. Pacquiao will just counter offer Floyd when something comes up. It’s always seemed to me that when one thing is no longer an issue then Floyd comes up with something else. If he doesn’t want to do with business with Arum then you don’t offer an Arum fighter 50/50, then 60/40, then a flat 40 million, then cut off days, then blood testing etc etc. By making these offers you are in essence doing business with a Bob Arum fighter. Pacquiao was a Top Rank fighter in 2009 and he’s a Top Rank fighter now, so… I guess those offers were in vain

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        • Floyd wont fight him no matter what, but he's right Manny really needs to ditch Bob ArScum and join the stable of the present and future...Goldenboy

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          • Quack Quack Jr.

            First of all, Floyd did NOT post those insulting tweets on Twitter against Pacquiao. There are 4 or 5 Floyd Mayweather on Twitter with slightly different spellings. The imposter on this one is "Floyd Mayweather" without the "Jr." at the end.
            2nd, Floyd JailWeather Jr. don't have the testicles to fight Pacquiao. It's excuses after excuses.
            3rd, quack quack, quack quack

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            • As for the Mayweather vs Pacquiao great debate. All you have to do is find out who keeps adding obstacles in order for the fight not to get made. It’s Floyd. It’s really that simple. Pacquiao will just counter offer Floyd when something comes up. It’s always seemed to me that when one thing is no longer an issue then Floyd comes up with something else. If he doesn’t want to do with business with Arum then you don’t offer an Arum fighter 50/50, then 60/40, then a flat 40 million, then cut off days, then blood testing etc etc. By making these offers you are in essence doing business with a Bob Arum fighter. Pacquiao was a Top Rank fighter in 2009 and he’s a Top Rank fighter now, so… I guess those offers were in vain

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              • Originally posted by radiotracer View Post
                showtime and mayweather don't want this fight unless they get all there bullying demands. They would rather duck than fight and risk a broner like loss. Floyd sees something in pac that's risky for his style. Maybe speed, power or being a southpaw. He wants all the money because of the risk.
                Right. So Showtime is willing to lose 10s of millions of dollars to help Floyd duck Pac. You're a ****in' idiot.

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                • People forget at one point Pacquiao did sign with GBP years ago when he thought his contract with TR was fulfilled but TR quickly stepped in and reclaimed him...

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                  • It's all greed really. I believe it was after the first negotiations that Floyd got that deal where he gets a percentage of everything sold at his fights. I thinks that's why 50/50 went away. That kind of revenue deal won't let him do big splits like that because he'll get less money. His opponents only get flat rates and maybe a small percentage. Floyd thought 40 mil was actually a great offer for PAC not considering how much of that would actually go to arum. But if u take arum out of the picture, pacman quickly accepts a 40 mil offer because he doesn't have to pay arum. This is why arum has to go. Him being involved messes up the money.

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                    • Originally posted by The904star View Post
                      It's all greed really. I believe it was after the first negotiations that Floyd got that deal where he gets a percentage of everything sold at his fights. I thinks that's why 50/50 went away. That kind of revenue deal won't let him do big splits like that because he'll get less money. His opponents only get flat rates and maybe a small percentage. Floyd thought 40 mil was actually a great offer for PAC not considering how much of that would actually go to arum. But if u take arum out of the picture, pacman quickly accepts a 40 mil offer because he doesn't have to pay arum. This is why arum has to go. Him being involved messes up the money.
                      I don't even think its greed. Showtime, GBP, and Floyd don't wanna **** with Arum. Just like HBO and Arum don't wanna **** with GBP. Its no different. At this point, Manny's an opponent for Floyd. He brings in a lotta fans. But his deal for aa Floyd ffight is gonna look much like Cotto's and Canelo's. And his promoter isn't gonna be actively involved in the promotion. If he can't deal with it, kick rocks. Its that simple.

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