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I would say it looks like a frame job to me.
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Maybe, but it just seems odd he keeps getting framed. Personally I just don't think he's the goody two shoes many of his fans make him out to be. Not saying he's a bad person, just that he's no angel.Originally posted by Syf View PostComment
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Well, I want him to win for the country, I'm not there right now but I'm looking to the future and the simplest way to put it is that it will be better away from Russia, whether its Klitschko or anyone else leading the country away from that I don't mind. Just Klitschko is a powerful figure that you would want in charge, he just seems made for politics but he is still a bit inexperienced...he may be easier to trust than the crook politicians that everyone has lost faith in yet he is also a bit naive, I'd want him to win out of the current options but in reality he would do better with some experience.Originally posted by BTL View Post
The changes...well it's all the idealistic stuff you want...better standard of living...more "European", stamping out corruption... of course it's another thing to deliver, but he seems to care at least, politics is not exactly a necessity for him since he hasn't really even lived in Ukraine for a while and made enough money to live on. Interestingly, if you didn't know, his party is called UDAR - Ukrainian word for 'punch', (yeah, no coincidence!) but the letters actually stand for Ukrainian ********ic Alliance for Reform. Good word-play
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Who knows, they say the opposition in Ukraine is backed by the CIA...I mean to be honest, in reality neither Russia or the EU is good for Ukraine, in an ideal world Ukraine would be just independent from either but with the better life standards of the West.Originally posted by Beercules View Post
Don't get me wrong, I can't complain when I am there, for me as a privileged type of guy in that society because my family is well-connected, for instance my grandmother is head of the main medical/scientific library in the capital, my uncle is a team doctor for the national basketball team (currently coached by some NBA all star coach...), and my 2nd cousin or something is an important ally of Vitali in his party. There's a very large gap in life standards, I can walk around and some streets are just filled with Ferraris, expensive shops etc, but then I know the wages are **** and overall people struggle, economy sucks, and these 'deputies', corrupt politicians only in politics for the cash, with their special governmental number plates, bunch of morons...
Anyway, my point is, there is always some sorts of outside influences, you can't get away from it...that's just the world we live in. It does get frustrating with all this secrecy, impossible to really trust anyone in power.Last edited by PainfromUkraine; 12-27-2013, 09:35 PM.Comment
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Puke at me because of Vittles indiscretions? Why so angry and why aim it towards me? I guess its OK for you to ridicule a fighter who is upstanding, god fearing and who has fought the best fighters in his division, but I shouldn't be allowed to talk about an admitted steroid cheat with allegations of cheating on his wife and political corruption, violence and intimidation. Its cool, I see how it is.Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
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The Klitschko brothers are acting like idiots. The EU is pretty much broke, so is the US.
They should be glad Ukraine has good relations with RussiaComment
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Are you sure? im talking about a short guy, bald, overweight. I'll try to find a picture.Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostComment
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Surely, even someone like you, would acknowledge that anyone should take such allegations with a pinch of salt...knowing the position Vitali has and what career path he is trying to followOriginally posted by JAB5239 View Post
Then again, these allegations do suit your agenda here. It is what it is, I guess it's only humanComment
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