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  • #31
    Originally posted by Tyler_Durden View Post
    A lot of people don't see or realize or they just ignore the fact that Golovkin is much more then just raw power. Gennady has beautiful combinations, works his opponents up and down, is able to stay in the pocket and be defensive by moving his head and his waist. They say his foot work is not that great because apperantly now days running means good foot work to people but Gennady doesn't have to run and is always set to throw. The ones that don't consider Gennady top pound for pound say that it's because his competition hasn't been top level but they fail to acknowledge the fact that the guys that are considered to be on top don't want to fight him.
    That's almost all to be said...

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Tyler_Durden View Post
      A lot of people don't see or realize or they just ignore the fact that Golovkin is much more then just raw power. Gennady has beautiful combinations, works his opponents up and down, is able to stay in the pocket and be defensive by moving his head and his waist. They say his foot work is not that great because apperantly now days running means good foot work to people but Gennady doesn't have to run and is always set to throw. The ones that don't consider Gennady top pound for pound say that it's because his competition hasn't been top level but they fail to acknowledge the fact that the guys that are considered to be on top don't want to fight him.
      More like, they don't want to realize lol.

      Just an awesome post, Ty. Knowledgable observations. Those are exactly my thoughts put into a nicely articulated post. That's why we're such good buddies!

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      • #33
        Ward should do this and dominate him, just to one up Froch. Again

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        • #34
          Originally posted by FrankieBruno View Post
          Triple G is a weight class down, he needs to move up if he wants the likes of Froch, Ward, Groves etc..


          None of them are scared of Triple G, all have faced bigger and hard hitting men before.

          Triple G is the unproven entity, we know what Ward, Froch and Groves can do
          we know what groves can do lol good fighter no disrespect to him still young as well but fighting a super thin fight and struggled against james degale and hurt bad dropped against a damn kenny anderson .. then fought a great fight against froch but was loosing steam .... like i said good fighter not saying he's not better than golovkin hopefully rematch with froch is next but don't act like groves is superior to golovkin

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Golovkin View Post
            Triple G and his team have already mentioned several times, they will fight ANYONE from 154 all the way up to 168 and heavier.

            ALL of them are, don't fool yourself.

            Because no one wants to step inside the ring with Golovkin. Golovkin would dispose of Froch and Ward in devastating fashion, a true beating. Ward would be more complicated though, he is on a level above those two.
            It's always complicated with Ward. If Ward feels he's behind on the scorecards he turns very nasty -- his clinches, headbuts and (more recently) wrestling capabilities are hard to avoid by opponents...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Golovkin View Post
              Triple G and his team have already mentioned several times, they will fight ANYONE from 154 all the way up to 168 and heavier.

              ALL of them are, don't fool yourself.

              Because no one wants to step inside the ring with Golovkin. Golovkin would dispose of Froch and Ward in devastating fashion, a true beating. Ward would be more complicated though, he is on a level above those two.
              Than why doesn't he offer an official contract to Ward at 168?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                Than why doesn't he offer an official contract to Ward at 168?
                Please read #35...

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                • #38
                  Good match up. It's new and fresh between two young fighters. A change from all the rematches, trilogies and recycled fights.

                  Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes View Post
                  Have you yet made a post that hasn't been completely asinine?
                  Golovkin hasn't even fought the best at 160, but Ward is ducking him.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Tyler_Durden View Post
                    A lot of people don't see or realize or they just ignore the fact that Golovkin is much more then just raw power. Gennady has beautiful combinations, works his opponents up and down, is able to stay in the pocket and be defensive by moving his head and his waist. They say his foot work is not that great because apperantly now days running means good foot work to people but Gennady doesn't have to run and is always set to throw. The ones that don't consider Gennady top pound for pound say that it's because his competition hasn't been top level but they fail to acknowledge the fact that the guys that are considered to be on top don't want to fight him.
                    Agreed

                    Would really like to see GGG power at SMW though. Yes he can throw good hurtful shots but would those move guys like Froch for instance

                    Also good point on the footwork - footwork doesn't mean shimmying and dancing around the ring. Footwork is all about being poised and ready to come back with a counter and GGG is very good at that.

                    Anyways from a fans perspective I would like to see GGG make a few fights at LMW or SMW first. If Groves fights Ward I can see him coming up short I just don't think he has the talent level to compete with someone who is at the level of mayweather, hopkins etc.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tyler_Durden View Post
                      A lot of people don't see or realize or they just ignore the fact that Golovkin is much more then just raw power. Gennady has beautiful combinations, works his opponents up and down, is able to stay in the pocket and be defensive by moving his head and his waist. They say his foot work is not that great because apperantly now days running means good foot work to people but Gennady doesn't have to run and is always set to throw. The ones that don't consider Gennady top pound for pound say that it's because his competition hasn't been top level but they fail to acknowledge the fact that the guys that are considered to be on top don't want to fight him.
                      Golovkin beating Stevens in a war really impresses you. Let me remind you, Stevens was the #9 ranked MW, meaning barely ranked. He was the underdog and was being predicted to lose in 3-5 rounds. Macklin was #6 ranked MW.

                      Ward is The Ring champ at 168, #2 P4P, and has wins over the #'s 1, 2, 6, 8, SMW's, and Rodriguez was also top 10 but was removed altogether because he said he is leaving 168. 2 of Ward's 4 wins over top 10 SMW's went on to become champion after he beat them.

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